October 24, 2007

Joke Layton Strikes Again

MPs got back to work last week

Jack Layton today

"Nothing makes people more cynical about politics than when parties don't do what they say, don't stand up for what they believe."

Jack Layton September 3rd when Stephen Harper prorogued Parliament

"By his actions, Stephen Harper is effectively locking out MPs. We have work to do. Everyday families are counting on us, but Stephen Harper is preventing us from getting down to work,"

I guess the NDP only wanted to work for two weeks…

If they really want to take Canadians to the polls, all they need to do is abstain on the Liberal amendment to the budget.

Here is Layton again today

"We think Mr. Harper is wrong in fundamental ways and when that happens people expect a party to stand up for its principles,''

You want to defeat the entire Throne Speech, abstain from the amendment, or else you are just posturing. The NDP really wants an election. This is their opportunity. By standing up against that amendment, they are sitting on their hands, like hypocrites.

Oh yeah, "Nothing makes people more cynical about politics than when parties don't do what they say, don't stand up for what they believe."

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10 Commentaires:

Blogger northwestern_lad a dit...

Antonio.... How is a party supposed to vote for, or even abstain from voting on items that are a) contrary to their own believes b) things that they have already voted against in the past (ie. the 2009 Afghanistan motion the Liberals put forth last winter) and c) that are designed by their authors to be soundly defeated. If Stephane Dion really wanted that ammendment to be taken seriously, he should have written something that was serious. That ammendment was a thinly veiled attempt at revising history and his own party's past record.

To call Mr. Layton a hypocrite for voting against things that he and his party have been consistently voting against is just wrong. Now if Mr. Layton had done exactly what you suggested and abstained from that vote on things that they have voted down before, then that would be hypocritical. That is why Dion is hypocritical, because he and his party abstained to vote on things that they have voted against before, to save their own skin. That's hypocritical.

10/24/2007 8:47 p.m.  
Blogger leftdog a dit...

So ... how does the 'logic' of this post work? The Libs let Harper have a green light and they are 'good'
The NDP do their job as opposition but to you they are 'bad'.

Where I come from, we have an old saying that goes 'Liberal / Tory, same old story'.

This post is proof of the fact that the Liberal party is a 'phony' party and should just DIE - most of it's members should join the Conservatives (where they will be ideologically at home) - the rest of the Liberals (those who are progressive) should join the New Democrats, where they would be welcomed.

10/24/2007 10:25 p.m.  
Blogger Scott Tribe a dit...

If Layton (and Duceppe for that matter) really thought an election was crucial at this time for the good of the country, they had in their hands a means to do so. The BQ's positions on Afghanistan and the environment were close enough to the Liberal amendment to vote yes, and all the NDP had to do was abstain from the Liberal motion to bring down the government (and probably score some good publicity points while doing so).

Don't get me wrong.. I wanted an election too... but the grandstanding by the NDP (and the BQ to a lesser extent) by urging the Liberals to vote against - which would have caused this election - and then to turn around and not go for the election itself is hypocritical.

Oh.. and leftdog.. your desire for the Liberal Party to die and go away is a wish shared by one Stephen Harper and the Conservatives.

10/24/2007 10:39 p.m.  
Blogger Steve V a dit...

"Where I come from, we have an old saying that goes 'Liberal / Tory, same old story'."

You should ask Bush his opinion on the matter. How about the UN?

10/24/2007 11:11 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

when did i call the liberal strategy good?

10/24/2007 11:40 p.m.  
Blogger leftdog a dit...

Antonio you were too busy attacking the NDP which is just too automatic a reaction for some Liberals - as I said - usually the ones who deep down should probably just be Tories but for whatever reason, have been Liberal.

10/25/2007 12:01 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

well to you relevant dipper, I say this...

DIon chickened out of an election because he was gonna get his ass kicked...would have gained more points with the public if he had just said so in my opinion.

The NDP can whine about whatever they want for 4 years in a Tory majority. Sure parliament will work, but it wont do anything for the NDP base or for all those wonderful principles Jack Layton claims to stand for.

dont you also find it odd that after saying the prorogation was locking MPs out and preventing them from doing their job, that layton wants to go on vacation til Febuary?

10/25/2007 1:54 a.m.  
Blogger Greg a dit...

Oh.. and leftdog.. your desire for the Liberal Party to die and go away is a wish shared by one Stephen Harper and the Conservatives.

I am tempted to say that even Stephen Harper can have a few good ideas, but I won't. I don't want the Liberals to go away. I just want progressives to realize that the Liberal establishment uses them as fodder and then laughs at them. I thought the MMP referendum would have proven that, Scott.

10/25/2007 9:21 a.m.  
Blogger Scott Tribe a dit...

If you believe the entire Liberal establishment was against the MMP initiative, that might be a valid point. As it is.. we don't have proof of that. We do know Elections Ontario ran a crappy campaign... but I dont know they're full of Liberal establishment types.

10/25/2007 2:48 p.m.  
Blogger leftdog a dit...

Antonio ... thanks!

10/25/2007 4:25 p.m.  

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