November 14, 2006

Attacks Ads and Worse Graphics

Is stupidity like this really necessary?

My favorite is the eraser.

This one is almost as pathetic as the one Braeden Caley made.

Does anybody else see the irony of an attack video with the song "We are family"
(i am still laughing I'm sorry)

Come on people, listen to the song...we ARE family. Families bitch at each other all the time, but at the end of the day we stick together. So Bob Rae wants to be the ugly stepsister, we love him just as much, even if he did say that we either had cholera or leprosy.

This one is just terrible its funny.

Oh the Gong Show Continues

21 Commentaires:

Anonymous Anonymous a dit...

Your sounding more and more like a member of the Board in your grand defence of people.

If this guy made a video talking about Rae's flip flops on the nation question I am sure you would praise it in a second.

11/14/2006 1:12 a.m.  
Blogger anybody but iggy a dit...

For someone who boos other candidates and then smirks that you drove them to the brink of tears, who runs a fake university club, who gloated about winning more delegates than other campaigns, who uses this blog (which was stolen from the YLCQ) to insult Rae and Dion at every turn (all the while arguing that anything said against your candidate is unfair smearing), who falsely accused Dion's wife of supporting the nation resolution, who transfers out of their riding to get elected, who threatens that not supporting your candidate's resolution will see Quebec punish the party electorally, and lead to a Canadian unity crisis, and who constantly refuses to awnser tough questions, your blithely championing the Liberal "family" is laughable.

The disgraceful and divisive way you and Iggy's Quebec team chose to run this campaign has damaged the party, and will come back to haunt you at the convention.

11/14/2006 2:56 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous a dit...

For the benefit of your surely discouraged readership, here's a link to that "pathetic" video Braeden Caley made.

It's no attack ad - to contend otherwise is laughable.

Instead of the constant personal insults I'm starting to see and expect from you guys, let's aim for unity again.

11/14/2006 3:03 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

ok I am not taking party unity lessons from an anonymous person calling themselves "anybody but iggy"

I stole this blog?

Concordia is a fake club?

you just continue to make up lies. Then again I am hardly surprised.

Braeden, your video, implicitly calling supporters of the nation separatist, is the most divisive piece of propaganda in terms of Quebec i have seen on the federalist side, EVER. We've talked about this at length. Braeden, sorry we wont agree.

11/14/2006 8:12 a.m.  
Blogger propatria a dit...

"ascribing boundaries and a provincial government to a sociological nation is inherently exclusive and clearly helpful to the separatist cause"

Im not sure its exclusive but i think it cant be denied it is clearly helpful to the separatist cause to swallow this phantom territory of the "quebec nation" (french-canadians). How a federalist can deny history and just go along with the notion that the province of quebec forms the historical and rightful borders of the "quebec nation" is an injustice to the "quebec nation" , because it limits them to one bloody province. The borders of the "quebec nation" is all of canada. Do not buy the separatist clap trap.

11/14/2006 10:23 a.m.  
Blogger Down & Out in L A a dit...

As usual, this site constantly strives for new lows.

Can anyone possibly guess where the bottom is?

I'm guessing it will be following the the convention in roughly three weeks.

Watch for sore losers and unhappy endings.

11/14/2006 12:10 p.m.  
Blogger propatria a dit...

At the risk of stating the obvious, how can caley's video be considered "...the most divisive piece of propaganda in terms of Quebec i have seen on the federalist side, EVER." when he just seems to be following trudeau's traditional argument on the "quebec nation".

11/14/2006 12:51 p.m.  
Blogger canuckistanian a dit...

i found braeden caley's video inspiring. kudos to you sir.

i found this video to be funny. i agreed with most of the quotes of rae. if you thought choosing b/w the martinites and harperites wasn't like choosing b/w leprosy and cholera, then there's a problm there. if you thought the liberal party wasn't smugly arrogant there's a problem. i've been volunteering for this party for over 15 years, and at times i have been very close to voting against it. blind partisanship is bad for the country. i put country b4 party or candidate...unlike some bloggers...

will be interesting to see where the iggiots go when their leader returns to bet is the bloc and the conservatives.

11/14/2006 2:40 p.m.  
Blogger Gavin Neil a dit...

The "we are family" think is obviously a joke. You're supposed to just see the irony in it, and not ask if other people see it.

The reason it's such a good joke is that the implication is Bob is NOT part of the family, he's an interloper who hasjoined the family to take a shot at the top job, failing which he will almost certainly disappear as quickly as he arrived.

And if you think Braeden's video was poor, why don't you show off your skills and lead by example? It's easier to criticize than create...


11/14/2006 3:26 p.m.  
Blogger NappyGuy a dit...

Thanks for pointing out that braeden caley piece ... it's fantastic and I am forwarding around to everyone I can.

Interesting that you only refuted two of anybody but iggy's claims. But, I guess there is a reason that everyone on all the other campaigns won't be coming to your guy on subsequent ballots. Anyways, that's the ONE positive legacy of the Ignatieff candidacy... bringing the REST of the party together!

11/15/2006 12:44 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

the caley video calls people like me separatist. That is why it is divisive. Separatists and federalists can agree on things you know.

Does not mean we want to break up the country. The video is divisive.

I can refute all of the claims but didnt wanna waste my time. Don't forget, Rae and Dion people booed the other too...

11/15/2006 12:56 a.m.  
Blogger anybody but iggy a dit...

Well, come on - REFUTE ALL MY CLAIMS.
Details, please!
If you don't want to "waste your time", then you are already proving my final claim right anyway.
The other stuff is here on the blog, or well-known by all the youth in QC.
So, what was false? Did you not transfer out of your riding to get elected?
Has your club operated cleanly?
Did you never (falsely)say here that Janine Kreiber voted in favor of the nation resolution?
Did you not take this blog out of the control of the YLCQ because you were so pissed when Brigitte wanted to back Belinda, who did not have enough "Franco" cred for you and Alex?
Have you not mocked Dion as being "driven to the brink of tears" by your booing?
Have you not mocked Rae delegate hopefuls who did not get elected?
And have you not said that there will be "dire electoral consequences" in QC if the nation resolution is not voted in?
So prove at least one of my charges wrong by taking on the tough questions, Antonio.
Ball's in your court.

11/15/2006 1:37 a.m.  
Blogger propatria a dit...

"the caley video calls people like me separatist. That is why it is divisive. Separatists and federalists can agree on things you know."

What point in the video is it that you feel targets people like you as a separatist? If its something like "the borders of the province of quebec are the borders of the quebec nation" well, im sorry but thats buying separatist propaganda hook line and sinker.

11/15/2006 2:16 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

Trudeau was ready to buy that too. They would have accepted it in the preamble that Quebec was a distinct society, yes the province.

Propatria, did Trudeau buy separatist propaganda hook line and sinker?

Caley distorts...

11/15/2006 8:28 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous a dit...

"Caley distorts..."


The entire purpose of this video was to remind Liberal delegates of Trudeau's attitude towards all such proposals.

Are you going to tell us that everything he said and ever wrote about particular status for Quebec was not what he meant?

His intellectual development process away from nationalism is something I find truly fascinating and informative.

Are you also going to tell us that when Trudeau's own eldest son, Justin, says that the proposals you're making stand against everything his father believed in, that you're right about what Pierre Trudeau thought, and Justin Trudeau is wrong?


I just don't understand what you're trying to suggest here.

11/15/2006 9:53 a.m.  
Blogger propatria a dit...

Trudeau was willing to say that quebec was distinct, just as every province was distinct. Sure ill agree to that , why not, who wouldnt.

No where do i find him willing to accept the province of quebec as a "nation". There is the "french-canadian" people, and there is the province of quebec. The only national territorial borders french-canadians have claim to are the borders of canada.

I never understood why , instead of pushing for the phrase "distinct society, people just push for exactly what makes the province of quebec distinct. That can be put into words, and there will be no need to believe in some make-believe "national territory of quebec".

11/15/2006 12:02 p.m.  
Blogger big gay al's big gay liberal sanctuary a dit...


The borders of the province of Quebec are the borders of the Quebec nation???

OK, so are you for or against the Clarity Act??? Because, in the Clarity Act, it's specified that if Quebec chooses to separates, borders would change, and the Quebec nation wouldn't have the same borders as the Quebec province... i.e. separatist areas separate, federalist areas stay part of Canada.


Because your belief on borders runs contrary to your supposed belief in the Clarity Act.

11/15/2006 2:32 p.m.  
Blogger anybody but iggy a dit...

Whatever, Big Gay Al. Don't waste your time.

Antonio is just trying his same old tactics of drive-by smearing and hiding from critics by distracting people with even more drive-by smears.

He won't awnser any of our charges or questions, because he has nothing, and he knows it.

Thankfully, now pretty much everyone is onto these lame tactics.

The sad thing is, although Antonio did all of this to help Iggy (and no doubt to advance his own career if Iggy won), in the end, this blog has done nothing but harm to his candidate.

11/15/2006 11:31 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

Ok "anybody but iggy" if you are so confident you are right, identify yourself as who you are.

What you have said is defamatory.

11/16/2006 8:32 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

I have already done so many times

I transferred out of my riding (honore mercier) to give someone else a chance to get elected. I was gonna win easily at Concordia.

The club operated cleanly as stated by the CSU and falsely by agents of the Dion campaign interested only in smearing.

I reported (at first) that Mme. Kreiber did support the nation resolution, as that is what was told to me by Alex. When I found out I was wrong, I retracted immediately, and apologized.

The YLC(Q) voted to take control of a blog that wasnt they couldnt do it. The situation has long been resolved.

Alex did poke a little fun at some rae delegates who lost, but only because they were throwing it our face that we were not able to organize ourselves out of a box...Alex made the post, I retracted it and apologized for the blog.

We did laugh at Stephane Dion a little when his own smear turned on its head and he was on the brink of tears...because it was, well funny, that he thought he had a knockout punch and 10 seconds later, he was losing support by the second...

Yes I said there will be dire consequences. One needs only look at the lead the PQ has over Charest right now aad tell me all will be fine if we slap Quebec in the face. I am not the first to say this may cause trouble and I know I will not be the last.

Refuted, every single one of them...this isnt the first time I do so...I have had to do it several times due to your smears...please identify yourself as what you are doing is illegal, it is clear slander.

11/16/2006 9:07 a.m.  
Blogger anybody but iggy a dit...

you are a baby and a frickin' moron.
When you "refute" something, you prove it isn't true. you just agreed with everything I said.
Plus, why the heck would you even run in any riding if you were so sure you were gonna win in Concordia, and you wanted to give a chance to someone else? Then you shouldn't have run through a riding at all!
And I am surprised to hear that your riding was Honore-Mercier, when you have spent a lot of time blabbing about how Eleni Bakopanos is your candidate. (no matter what "she has between her legs" - ouch, was that ever in bad taste, almost as gross as when you breathlessly mentioned Iggy's testicular fortitude in one sentence, and then his "balls" in the next, just to make sure we all got the point).
Isn't Ms. Bakopanos the candidate for AHUNTSIC?
So how many ridings do you belong to?

11/17/2006 7:53 a.m.  

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