Were They Reading the Same Resolution?
I heart the CBC
I always did. But after last night's National, I heart them even more
Here is the clip....fast forward to 14 minutes in and watch the report on the Nation question.
KEITH BOAG (CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT):
Wendy, tonight is another restless one for Liberals as they continue to blame each other for allowing their leadership campaign to become trapped in an argument about Quebec and the constitution. The argument started here, Montreal, just over a week ago. The Quebec wing of the party adopted a resolution to be voted on at the national convention at the end of November. The resolution recognizes Quebec as a nation, and it describes a process for figuring out how to formalize that. It doesn't mention reopening the constitution, but most accept that is what it meant. The question is when.
MICHAEL IGNATIEFF (LIBERAL LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE):
First we have to see whether it's adopted.
KEITH BOAG (CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT):
Leadership frontrunner Michael Ignatieff supported the resolution, and some of his key backers claim they were responsible for its success. He has in the past talked about reopening the constitution in the future. It's in platform documents, but what he said here didn't sound all that urgent:
MICHAEL IGNATIEFF (LIBERAL LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE):
And you choose a leader, and his job is to find the moment, find the possibility when we could do something. If it's not possible, it's not possible.
KEITH BOAG (CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT):
His closest rival, Bob Rae, cast it a little differently:
BOB RAE (LIBERAL LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE):
I have no particular problem with the formulation of the words "Quebec is a nation." Where I part company with some is the extent to which the constitution... we should be reopening the constitution at this point in time.
KEITH BOAG (CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT):
"At this point in time." That, more or less, set the tone. Rae and Stéphane Dion led a growing chorus of detractors who claimed it was Ignatieff's bad idea to reopen the constitution soon.
End Quote -----
Watch Bob Rae and Michael Ignatieff respond to the resolution that was passed in Montreal. How could Bob say what he said and oppose the resolution. Makes me wonder if someone perhaps gave Bob the wrong text. After that comment. he should theoretically be in favor of what was passed...
Bob's position continues to puzzle me
I always did. But after last night's National, I heart them even more
Here is the clip....fast forward to 14 minutes in and watch the report on the Nation question.
KEITH BOAG (CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT):
Wendy, tonight is another restless one for Liberals as they continue to blame each other for allowing their leadership campaign to become trapped in an argument about Quebec and the constitution. The argument started here, Montreal, just over a week ago. The Quebec wing of the party adopted a resolution to be voted on at the national convention at the end of November. The resolution recognizes Quebec as a nation, and it describes a process for figuring out how to formalize that. It doesn't mention reopening the constitution, but most accept that is what it meant. The question is when.
MICHAEL IGNATIEFF (LIBERAL LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE):
First we have to see whether it's adopted.
KEITH BOAG (CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT):
Leadership frontrunner Michael Ignatieff supported the resolution, and some of his key backers claim they were responsible for its success. He has in the past talked about reopening the constitution in the future. It's in platform documents, but what he said here didn't sound all that urgent:
MICHAEL IGNATIEFF (LIBERAL LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE):
And you choose a leader, and his job is to find the moment, find the possibility when we could do something. If it's not possible, it's not possible.
KEITH BOAG (CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT):
His closest rival, Bob Rae, cast it a little differently:
BOB RAE (LIBERAL LEADERSHIP CANDIDATE):
I have no particular problem with the formulation of the words "Quebec is a nation." Where I part company with some is the extent to which the constitution... we should be reopening the constitution at this point in time.
KEITH BOAG (CHIEF POLITICAL CORRESPONDENT):
"At this point in time." That, more or less, set the tone. Rae and Stéphane Dion led a growing chorus of detractors who claimed it was Ignatieff's bad idea to reopen the constitution soon.
End Quote -----
Watch Bob Rae and Michael Ignatieff respond to the resolution that was passed in Montreal. How could Bob say what he said and oppose the resolution. Makes me wonder if someone perhaps gave Bob the wrong text. After that comment. he should theoretically be in favor of what was passed...
Bob's position continues to puzzle me
par / by Anthony à / at 7:57 a.m.
10 Commentaires:
"In the heat of a national election campaign, Mr. Harper's cookie jar would prevail over Mr. Ignatieff's can of worms."
from today's Globe.
That about sums up Ignatieff's platform and policy "Can of Worms"
vote for me. Its pretty clear now that Mr. Ignatieff won't be leading this Party thank God!
What's humourous is how some people say Ignatieff is toast, done, no chance, but then feel the need to keep saying that week after week. If he was truly done, if people like s.b. truly thought that, you'd think they would have moved on to other things like discussing who will win and what are that candidate's pros and cons.
Alas, methinks they aren't so convinced of their own rhetoric and spin.
I thought SB would be in jail by now (Google Shoshana Berman). Then again, maybe she is posting from jail...
Oh I have moved on to other things Cerberus like ensuring the defeat of this "Can of Worms" at the Policy level. Ignatieff has defeated himself as was inevitable.
"Ignatieff is a maverick with bold ideas -- only not when it comes to Quebec. His ideas are the same as all of the front runners."
That seems to be the strategy of Ignatieff campaign of late. What a crock.
I'm truly astounded at the luck of political judgement being shown by the Ignatieff team.
The idea that Quebec is a nation may play well in some corners of Quebec (soft and no-soft nationalists like Landry have lapped it up). But in other parts of Quebec and especially in ROC? What were they thinking?
This issue will not only cause Ignatieff to not win the leadership, it will result in the Liberals being divided and torn for another 4-5 years. The only winners will be Harper and the Bloc.
Actually Cerberus the comment is from the globe and they go into detail about why none of Igs policies have any choice to offer Canadian voters against Harper. You should read it. here
If this Quebec motions passes, The Cat agrees with the Ottawa Sun (October 31, 2006):
"Based on this appalling record, our advice to any Canadian who wants to preserve national unity is simple. In the next federal election, don't vote Liberal."
Why should voters follow a Liberal Party over the constitutional amendment cliff, like lemmings, just because no candidate for Liberal leader had the courage to stop this nonsense?
Actually, there are some Newfoundland seperatists and some western seperatists, gosh there are probably some Ontario seperatists. We do have Simcoe Day you know, and no one else does, and could easily move our National Holidy to Aug 1st instead of July 1st. We even have the Six Nations reserve. Recognizing any of the Nations in Canada as different under the constitution or opening it up for debate is just well plain dumb. Yep dumb and to use it to score political points is unforgiveable. I'm sure that cooler heads than Antonio and the kiddies, the guy with all the hair and the anti-semite will prevail at convention, unlike the side swipe they gave the Liberal Party and all of Canada at the LPCQ in Montreal.
I cannot believe I agree with everything SB has said here.
Either Iggy knew what he was getting into when he opened this can of weorks, or he didn't.
Therefore, he is either a self-obsessed, power-hungry jerk who will sacrifice the unity of the party and of this country forhis own short-term game, or he is an idiot.
Either way, he is totally unsuitable for any high political office. Totally.
Question to Iggy supporters:
What the heck is wrong with you guys?
G
I wonder why Bob Rae continues to oppose the motion when he supports what is in it...
How is it negative to point out a Bob Rae quote from last Saturday?
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