Jamie Carroll Survives (edit:survived?) at the Expense of the Party
Re: Edit
Ottawa Sources are confirming now that Carroll is not going anywhere...
so much for that furniture...
(original edit)
Karma is a bitch...
Jamie is resigning. I am sure this means he still didnt say anything...right
If Dion has any hope for saving the furniture in Quebec, he would be wise to put Marc Lavigne in there, the man responsible for his leadership campaign in Quebec. Lavigne commands the respect of the Quebec troops from all camps...
(below was the original post)
Last week, Jamie Carroll made an off the cuff comment while Party President Marie Poulin was speaking at the meeting of the management committee.
Carroll disgraced himself by saying that if he hired more bilingual people; he would have to hire more Chinese speakers. Now I have met Jamie Carroll and he didn’t seem like Lord Durham at the time. I doubt he is an assimilationist but he needs to take responsibility for what he said.
Look at who came out against Jamie Carroll, the francophones in the room. They were offended by what Jamie said. The Dionistas hemmed and hawed. It was a misunderstanding they say.
Marie Poulin, president of the Party, heard and denounced the comments. She was more diplomatic than the president of the Quebec PTA, Bob Fragasso, who outright condemned it. The VP Francophone, Brigitte Legault, also reiterated that what Carroll said was out of line.
The three people whose job it is to stick up for francophones vigorously defended them to no avail. At the end of the day, in terms of the Liberal Party, Dion showed which side he was on and as usual, Dion was against Quebec.
The departure of Marc Lavigne hurt Dion’s organizational prowess in his home province. The only organizer of note left in the Dionista camp was Sherbrooke’s Michel Joncas, the election co-chair for Quebec.
Yesterday, Michel Joncas resigned from the electoral commission and from his riding association. The electoral commission pushed for the nomination of three candidates in winnable ridings on the island.
They penciled in Liza Frulla in Lasalle Emard, but nobody knows if she will accept, and if Dion will allow it. Westmount, the riding where national hero Marc Garneau was supposed to run, was given to Marc Bruneau, former VP of Bell Canada, and someone who throws nice fundraisers at his penthouse apartment. STAR candidate indeed (sarcasm). As for Jeanne LeBer, it was assigned to Westmount riding President Brigitte Garceau. Why not run Garceau in the riding where she lives and has worked at the grassroots level for 13 years? Because Bruneau throws nice parties in his penthouse apartment.
The train wreck continues here in Quebec and not even the most seasoned political veterans can tell when it is going to end. With Quebec’s Director General Serge Marcil also ready to quit and nobody around who wants to succeed him, it is very possible that we are in an election in 3 weeks and the Liberals will be completely unprepared in Quebec.
Why does nobody in Quebec want to help dear old Stephane Dion? Could it be because the National Director and his staff have such little respect for the province? Could it be because every time since he became leader, Dion has chosen his staff over Quebec? I guess in the end, you reap what you sow…
Ottawa Sources are confirming now that Carroll is not going anywhere...
so much for that furniture...
(original edit)
Karma is a bitch...
Jamie is resigning. I am sure this means he still didnt say anything...right
If Dion has any hope for saving the furniture in Quebec, he would be wise to put Marc Lavigne in there, the man responsible for his leadership campaign in Quebec. Lavigne commands the respect of the Quebec troops from all camps...
(below was the original post)
Last week, Jamie Carroll made an off the cuff comment while Party President Marie Poulin was speaking at the meeting of the management committee.
Carroll disgraced himself by saying that if he hired more bilingual people; he would have to hire more Chinese speakers. Now I have met Jamie Carroll and he didn’t seem like Lord Durham at the time. I doubt he is an assimilationist but he needs to take responsibility for what he said.
Look at who came out against Jamie Carroll, the francophones in the room. They were offended by what Jamie said. The Dionistas hemmed and hawed. It was a misunderstanding they say.
Marie Poulin, president of the Party, heard and denounced the comments. She was more diplomatic than the president of the Quebec PTA, Bob Fragasso, who outright condemned it. The VP Francophone, Brigitte Legault, also reiterated that what Carroll said was out of line.
The three people whose job it is to stick up for francophones vigorously defended them to no avail. At the end of the day, in terms of the Liberal Party, Dion showed which side he was on and as usual, Dion was against Quebec.
The departure of Marc Lavigne hurt Dion’s organizational prowess in his home province. The only organizer of note left in the Dionista camp was Sherbrooke’s Michel Joncas, the election co-chair for Quebec.
Yesterday, Michel Joncas resigned from the electoral commission and from his riding association. The electoral commission pushed for the nomination of three candidates in winnable ridings on the island.
They penciled in Liza Frulla in Lasalle Emard, but nobody knows if she will accept, and if Dion will allow it. Westmount, the riding where national hero Marc Garneau was supposed to run, was given to Marc Bruneau, former VP of Bell Canada, and someone who throws nice fundraisers at his penthouse apartment. STAR candidate indeed (sarcasm). As for Jeanne LeBer, it was assigned to Westmount riding President Brigitte Garceau. Why not run Garceau in the riding where she lives and has worked at the grassroots level for 13 years? Because Bruneau throws nice parties in his penthouse apartment.
The train wreck continues here in Quebec and not even the most seasoned political veterans can tell when it is going to end. With Quebec’s Director General Serge Marcil also ready to quit and nobody around who wants to succeed him, it is very possible that we are in an election in 3 weeks and the Liberals will be completely unprepared in Quebec.
Why does nobody in Quebec want to help dear old Stephane Dion? Could it be because the National Director and his staff have such little respect for the province? Could it be because every time since he became leader, Dion has chosen his staff over Quebec? I guess in the end, you reap what you sow…
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par / by Anthony à / at 10:13 a.m.
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Tory blogger - Canadian Blue Lemons is carrying a rumour that Carroll will resign later today - FYI (trying to be relevant!)
here is CBC's report:
"The federal Liberal party's national director is expected to resign Tuesday over comments he made last week regarding hiring more francophone Quebecers, CBC News has learned."
CBC News
They were offended by what Jamie said. The Dionistas hemmed and hawed.
Antonio, you caution me and others when we try to view this through leadership prisms, and yet throughout this post you say Dionista this, and Dionista that. I don't think it would be fair to call those that spoke-out against Carrol Iggyistas, would it? I mean, they did all support him for the leadership, but that's not what this is about, so such a characterization would be unfair.
Just as your calling those that claimed a different version of events Dionistas is unfair. If you're referring to whom they supported for the leadership, as I recall they backed a variety of different candidates, not all were 'Dionistas.' And such labels are outdated and irrelevant. Because everyone in the room were Liberals, that's the only moniker necessary. Whatever happened to tous ensemble?
Jeff, with all due respect, I use Dionista to refer to those who think nothing is wrong with the current state of affairs.
I guess I should just go back to Chernamaniaks
I also would point out that Brigitte Legault did stay neutral until the last ballot.
She did vote for Ignatieff, but I mean, as a Quebecer with a political sense...do you blame her?
As for Marie Poulin, I dont recallher being an ignatieff supporter...
Again Manitobans are ignored in the selection of Dion's entourage....
nyuk, nyuk, nyuk...
eff, with all due respect, I use Dionista to refer to those who think nothing is wrong with the current state of affairs.
I guess I should just go back to Chernamaniaks
Interesting. I suppose, then, that Iggyistas (Iggsters?) would be those who are so champing at the bit for their man to take the helm that they're willing to say or do anything to make it happen?
The ones who would, ahem, leave the party if their man didn't seize the crown, even if he accepted the results?
Inquiring minds.
(Or, perhaps, you can simply use the phrase "people who won't accept the need for non-leadership change" to represent the idea "people who won't accept the need for non-leadership change". Unweildy, but it certainly gets the point across.)
Antonio - I think your sources should be checked again - all hell is breaking loose in the Gong Show known as the Liberal Party of Canada!
Antonio,
What is the endgame in this, from the perspective of the Quebec wing? Do you really think Iggy will be "installed"?
This is another "knife to the throat of the ROC", right? Give us our guy or we will self-immolate.
Anthony:
This is pathetic posting. I am really quite embarrassed.
If you wanted to run the party you should have made sure your (our) candidate won the leadership.
Get over yourself...and tell your friends in Quebec!!
There was no need for the Carroll crisis. All he had to do was immediately and publicly aplogize when his ill-chosen remarks got into the media. That would have been the end of it. Too bad.
Dear Antonio.
I wonder, in the far off future, will your tombstone have "Stupid Fucking Idiot" engraved on it????
if you let certain Liberal Blog Stars have their way....
There was no need for the Carroll crisis. All he had to do was immediately and publicly aplogize when his ill-chosen remarks got into the media. That would have been the end of it. Too bad.
Imagine if it didn't get leaked to the media in the first place.
'Dion showed which side he was on and as usual, Dion was against Quebec'
Spoken like a true Bloquiste, Antonio. Congrats. You have shown time and again, like other nationalist/Lapierre Quebec Liberals that what you really cannot accept is that a francophone from Quebec leads a national federal party. If you are for Canada - then you are against Quebec, goes your logic. I strongly encourage you to join the Bloc. You would be very happy there, and with like-minded persons. What you know, is that you cannot sell a national party with a francophone from Quebec at its helm.
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