December 2, 2006

Stephane I Lend You My Hand…If You Wish to Take It

You know, it is not easy to take a loss like this. I cried when I heard the result, knowing full well it was coming. I am still crying right now.

When you pour your emotions so much into something like this, it becomes a part of you.

I will never forget this campaign.

It is no secret that I believed that Stephane Dion was not the best choice to lead this party. It is no secret that I believe that we must preach an openness to Quebec which you do not believe in.

Tonight I lost a part of me. I lost my faith in ideas. The deals which I saw cut this weekend will forever leave a cynical trace in mind. The faith I lost in politics throughout this weekend will take time to rebuild…but I will re-build it nonetheless.

I will not rip up my card. I will not walk away. But I do ask of you to please listen to the people of Quebec, who yearn for recognition, who yearn for their rightful place WITHIN Canada. Stephane, you cannot afford to be stubborn, and neither can we.

We will not make the same mistake we made in 1990. We will not let Quebec divide this party. However, if we will ever listen to the grassroots, it will be the biggest and best success you will ever have.

We will take your message to the people of Quebec. We will take your platform to the image of Quebec. But we ask that you take our message to the people as well. The message of the Quebecois. The message that we are stronger as a people within Canada than we are outside of it. Stephane, now you have the chance to prove to people you can be a hero…you have our support...if you wish to take it.

28 Commentaires:

Blogger JimTan a dit...

Dear Antonio,

Yes, you have ideas and ideals. So does everyone else. You must accept that Dion has better ideas and ideals than Ignatieff.

On the flip side, everyone has fears too. For many delegates, Ignatieff was more frightening than Dion.

The spotlight is now on Dion who is not a natural leader nor an experienced organization person. We will have to hope that Stephen Harper will make the major mistakes.

12/02/2006 8:06 p.m.  
Blogger JimTan a dit...

Here's my open letter to the boss


For Stephane Dion,

Congratulations on your victory. I was uncertain about your prospects. However, events worked in your favor. The best of luck to you as leader of the Liberals! Canada depends on you.

May I offer some advice.

1) Create a coalition by absorbing the losers. You need the political and organizational skills of every member of the party. Treat all of them with respect, even if they are careerists and shady. Deploy them where they can do well and earn respect.
2) Gerald Kennedy is an important asset. He may be a future leader of the party. He has already been rejected once in Ontario. He would be crushed if he were rejected again.
3) As leader of the party, you can beat Harper. Create a logical and consistent platform based on an understanding of the electorate. A great leader understands what is in the heart of his people.
4) For the imminent general election, the party only needs to execute well. Harper will make the mistakes and about-faces. You only need to avoid critical mistakes.
5) I would strongly suggest that you acquire the habit of looking from behind the eyes of others. Canada will likely have a series of minority governments. Flexibility and empathy is necessary in the long run.
6) Once you are settled in, you may want to revisit the issue of party reforms. This party conference has rejected the key recommendations made by committees. Much needs to be done. The party can afford to renew itself once it regains the government.

All the best! Our hopes ride with you.

Jimmy Tan

12/02/2006 8:44 p.m.  
Blogger ecrelin a dit...

I understand you Antonio. Like you, I putted a lot of hope in Ignatieff. He made us proud of being federalist again. As a french speaking Quebecker from eastern Québec, it's not easy to be a fedralist, and it's even less easy to be a liberal. I'm sad to see that the Dion-Trudeau Jr.-Kennedy alliance and their hard-line approach versus Quebec won this race.

I hope that Stéphane will understand why 90% of the french speaking Québec's deleguate went to Ignatieff on the final ballot. I hope that he will understand why persons like me, Antonio, Romeo Dallaire, Liza Frulla, Denis Coderre, Pablo Rodriguez, Marc Garneau put so much hope on Ignatieff.

Je vais quand même donner la chance à Dion de se faire valoire. C'est une homme intelligent et intègre. J'espère seulement qu'il montrera un peu d'ouverture envers le Québec, car les belles paroles ne sont pas assez pour vaincre les séparatistes.

12/02/2006 11:06 p.m.  
Blogger polarslam a dit...

Maybe if Iggy and his team were not just arogant bastards they might have swung a deal and got one of the droped candidates to support him?

12/02/2006 11:07 p.m.  
Blogger polarslam a dit...

Maybe the 90% of French Delegates need to look for a new party if they want one that will play to their silly soft nationalist aspirations. The Liberal Party has never been that party, nor will it ever be.

The Dion-Kennedy team will offer Canadians the stong one-canada approach that the Liberal Party has always stood for and we will win power with that approach again.

12/02/2006 11:09 p.m.  
Blogger M-A a dit...

Salut à tous.

Avant toute chose, je tiens à dire que je suis un souverainiste impliqué au PQ et au BQ.

Malgré nos profondes divergences sur des enjeux aussi fondamentaux que la place du Québec dans le monde, je tiens à saluer tout les jeunes libéraux qui ont milité avec passion et détermination pour un candidat. C'est très sain pour la jeunesse.

Je suis, un peu comme tout le monde, surpris du résultat de la convention, mais je tiens à féliciter le vainqueur Stéphane Dion. Il mérite de savourer pleinement son incroyable victoire pendant quelques heures!

Je suis d'ailleurs un peu dégouté de voir le PCC et le NPD s'attaquer aussitot à Dion. Ca manque de classe. Ca me rappelle un peu les déclarations odieuses des représentants du PLC, PLQ et PCC lors de l'élection de Boisclair. Ces gens qui ont le courage de se présenter au leadership mérite quand même quelques heures de répit pour célébrer leur victoire! Je tiens, à ce propos, féliciter madame Viviane Barbot, députée de Papineau, qui a été digne lors de ses déclarations.

Je tiens aussi à féliciter Micheal Ignatieff. Sérieusement, ce candidat m'a beaucoup impressionné par son brassage d'idée et sa capacité à se prononcer sur des enjeux qui risquaient de lui nuire (ce qui est arrivé) Il mérite tout mon respect pour cela. Ca doit être très très décevant puisqu'il a été celui qui a porté cette course pendant tout le long.

Je crois qu'il a surtout été désavantagé par le "mode de scrutin" préconisé (la convention). Il aurait été plus facile pour lui de l'emporter sur un vote similaire que celui tenu au Parti Québécois. Il aurait peut-être pas gagné, mais il aurait eu au moins la chance de subir l'affront du mouvement "Anybody but" dont il a été victime.

Je suis un peu triste pour lui ce soir.

En terminant, j'ai bien aimé suivre vos débats et votre congrès via CPAC pendant la fin de semaine.

J'ai une demande un peu surprenante et j'espère que ma position souverainiste ne vous rebutera pas trop. J'aimerais bien pouvoir me procurer quelques éléments promotionnels des différents candidats (macarons, foulards, etc). J'en fais une collection!

Quelqu'un a-t-il l'âme charitable?

12/03/2006 12:46 a.m.  
Blogger M-A a dit...

la chance de ne pas subir l'affront*

12/03/2006 12:56 a.m.  
Blogger big gay al's big gay liberal sanctuary a dit...

Antonio

Hopefully, in the coming days, you will learn to work with other Liberals as a team, rather than be divisive. You can be a great asset to the Liberals, but your comments can be interpreted as saying that many people (actually a majority of people) did not vote for Dion because of his ideals and ideas. Give me a break. Do not be a sore loser. People voted for who they thought was best. In the end, Dion was that person. Dion's ideas and ideals appealed to more Liberals than Ignatieff's.

To build a strong party, but your FULL support behind him. Unity is what builds strength, not divisiveness.

12/03/2006 2:33 a.m.  
Blogger The Dilettante a dit...

You cried? What a baby....

But seriously, now. Your comments reflect the mindset of a poor loser, somebody who can't deal with the fact that another candidate presented better ideas in a more coherent and co-operative fashion.

And, if you want to talk about cynicism, wait until you see your guy Ignatieff hop on a plane and head back to the ivory towers of the United States in a few months. That'll really do you in.

12/03/2006 4:53 a.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous a dit...

Je vous tend la main pour vous joindre au club KenneDion. On va travailler "tous ensemble" pour vaincre Harper!

12/03/2006 9:13 a.m.  
Blogger The Tiger a dit...

There's a rather ominous sound to that last sentence of the post...

12/03/2006 10:55 a.m.  
Blogger propatria a dit...

What with the recent motion passed in ottawa, I dont know how much more recognition quebec can get without opening the constitution. That being said , id trust dion with that hand-grenade more than any other person , because above all he believes in doing whats good for the country as a whole.

Green enviromental policy, social justice, economic responsibility...Is there a canadian anywhere in the country that can disagree with that?

12/03/2006 11:53 a.m.  
Blogger PhillyC a dit...

I know it's tough. It's never easy losing.

But you can't talk about"the deals which I saw cut this weekend will forever leave a cynical trace in mind." You've witnessed them before but you were always on the opposite end of them. You supported Chretien, he won leadership and won his 38% majority victory. You didn't come out swinging against an "unjust democracy." Why? Because you benefitted from it. You supported Paul Martin, the ultimate deal maker, and he won. No complaints.

Ignatieff loses, and you complain about the politics of it all. Liberals felt Ignatieff would not be the best face for the Liberal party. Beyond his first ballot base, almost no one thought we was the best face for the Liberal party.

I see a lack of consistency.

12/03/2006 2:36 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

I will not put my views and beliefs away simply because my candidate did not win.

While the party members must rally to the winner, the winner also has a responsibility to rally to the party members as well.

To say I have not rallied is garbage. I said I will not leave the party. I said I will not attack Dion. It almost ruined our party before. I will not do it again.

To say now the 80% of the Liberal Party who did not vote for Dion must now swallow everything he says without any input will contribute to the downfall of the party in the upcoming election.

The leader must first listen...

12/03/2006 2:42 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

phil, with all due respect, you dont know which deals I am talking about, and I will not say what they were.

They are not all about dion (and certainly I am not speaking of the Kennedy Dion alliance) but the other stuff I saw. (some of which included my guy)

12/03/2006 2:45 p.m.  
Blogger PhillyC a dit...

If you aren't going to say which deals opining about, you shouldn't complain about them on a public forum. It makes it difficult to have dialogue, which is crucial in politics. Always.

I don't believe in buying into everything a leader says either. I agree dialogue is important with a leader. He is accountable to his whole party and ultimately to Canadians. But, at the same time, even when events go as hoped for, in your case Chretien majority governments clearly garnering less than 50% of the popular vote or Martin wheeling and dealings, you must speak out against an just process even if it does deliver the results you hoped for. That enables a political process that is transperant, accountable and one that promotes discussion and dialogue. It always gives you more credibility in the eyes of your supporters and ultimately in the eyes of your fierciest critics.

Eventually, if you don't do this, the unjust process will go against you and it looks self-interested complaining about it.

I urgue you to discuss the events of the Liberal Leadership deals so society has a more transperant view of what truely drives the political outcomes in this country. I think by having this knowledge, citizens can make more informed decisions about the political process and the candidates.

12/03/2006 3:33 p.m.  
Blogger big gay al's big gay liberal sanctuary a dit...

Antonio

The party must unite, enough with petty squabbles.

By you not saying anything about these "mysterious" deals, you sound like Shoshana Berman, who often makes such claims. If you're going to accuse something of happening, at least let it out in the open and prove. For all we know, you can be bitter and just making up things, like a certain fellow blogger of yours.

In the end, over 50% of delegates voted for Dion, because his views best expressed their views. Your candiate's didn't. Its that plain and simple.

12/03/2006 3:47 p.m.  
Blogger propatria a dit...

I dont understand which views and beliefs you hold which dion opposes.

12/03/2006 3:57 p.m.  
Blogger Jason Cherniak a dit...

Antonio,

I understand that you are disappointed and I will not hold your feelings against you. However, I hope that over time you will see that Dion does practice "open federalism", even if it not your view of federalism.

We spoke to each other the day that Dion gave his speech on the nation motion in Parliament and you told me you were proud. I know you don't feel that way right now, but I hope you will again.

We are all on the same team and I hope we will all continue to work together in building the Liberal Party and Canada.

12/03/2006 4:42 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

i never said ONCE that I was not gonna rally

Anything short of DION IS MY NEW GOD!!!!! would never do...

12/03/2006 6:16 p.m.  
Blogger Jason Townsend a dit...

Antonio - you have my sympathy for a rough weekend. I'm very hopeful for party and national unity, as the sting wears off, but I'll not ply you with political bromides when you're still hurting.

12/03/2006 7:03 p.m.  
Blogger Glen a dit...

Two words: Group hug.

The party has gone through a very difficult period in choosing a new leader, but we must remain united.

Mr. Ignatieff, for all the policies I don't agree with, handled himself in a way that I haven't see in a long time. When he gave his speech after the results, he did so with class, charisma, and a dedication to the party that we should all try to emulate.

Prime Minister Dion, with his cabinet of Ignatieff, Hall Findlay, Kennedy, Dryden, Brison, and many more will do us proud.

Some many be Dionistas, some may be Iggy supporters, but remember - we are all Liberals.

12/03/2006 7:09 p.m.  
Blogger Manitoba Liberal a dit...

We are all Liberals, and as Liberals we have been fighting messy internal leadership wars since the 1970's.

It's part of who we are.

Dion gets one election to win, or else the knives will be out for him at the leadership review. You all know it's true.

12/03/2006 7:42 p.m.  
Blogger fidel a dit...

although, inherent and lingering thoughts of Liberal *acceptability* have continued to meander through my thoughts, my utilitarian aptitudes have gotten the best of me. i am glad that Dion won.

it is no lie that i never wanted ignatieff to win. however, i dont think it would be absurd to suggest that the reason he didnt win had less to do with his ideas and more to do with his standing in the party. ignatieff had not paid his dues, thankfully.

antonio, i get your disillusionment. i think you are right to be experiencing those kinds of emotions. however, for me, those feelings kindoff evaporate when i think of the leadership capabilities of Mr. Dion. he has integrity. if canadians give him a chance, he will not fail them. (lest us not forget..these opinions are coming from a girl that has spent most of her socio-political consciousness hating and thrashing on the good old corrrupt patronage abounding liberals)

ps. this is not the death of ideology; rather, it is the inception of logical, effective and focused planning and implementation.

12/03/2006 8:22 p.m.  
Blogger [JTF6.0]Undecided a dit...

Let it be said that Michael Ignatieff ran a campaign to be proud of, just like Rae, Kennedy, Dryden, Volpe, Findley, and Brison. If we can unite into a Dream Team, then we will be unstoppable in the next election. So thus, it is up to us to reach out to each other and let go of our divisions. I have been critical of you Antonio, but finally now we can work together. I look forward to see the work Michael will do in Cabinet as part of the Liberal Team.

Scott Blurton
BC Undecided
bcundecided@blogspot.com

12/03/2006 9:02 p.m.  
Blogger Scott Tribe a dit...

Quite honestly, I thought Antonio was going to put up a post more.. upset then this one. This one is quite mild compared to what I thought it would be. I can also say I was the first to read it - since he asked me to read it to see if I thought it was wise to post it - I said why not? :)


I was in the room when Antonio came in and was weeping. Thats not being a wimp,thats putting your heart and soul into a candidate you believed in.. and its tough emotionally when it doesnt quite come together. I admire a person like that who can wear his emotions on his sleeve.

Lastly, as I told Antonio there, I think Dion should be given a chance by the Iggy folks and particularly the Quebec delegates to see how he performs. I had the honour of meeting the man and shaking his hand at the Liblogs party, and my impressions of him are that he is an honourable man.

12/03/2006 9:44 p.m.  
Blogger polarslam a dit...

I'm hoping that a Dion win comes with the bonus of Dennis Coderre finally leaving politics and tainting the Liberal Party with his slime.

12/03/2006 9:51 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous a dit...

I was close to tears when Kennedy withdrew. It's always tough to see the guy you liked best go down. Nothing wrong there.

As for Dion, the best we can hope for is that Quebeckers get behind him like they've always done in the past for the hard-line federalists. Will it work, or have we moved on to the only way winning in Quebec is to pander to the separatists?

And I do hope that Dion will look into the policies that everyone else had. We had a lot of good policies from everyone, and I would like to hope that anyone who won this would would take from all. We're no longer fighting against each other, so we should not be ashamed to steal each other's policies.

12/03/2006 10:52 p.m.  

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