May 18, 2007

Justin Idol: Viva la Revolucion

He is not advocating communism…just "re-thinking capitalism"

Trudeau suggested to the students the capitalist "machine" that sustains modern existence may also become modern civilization's downfall.

The system promotes exploitation of natural resources without accounting for future consequences of consumption, he said.

"Our capitalist model has given us tremendous things," Trudeau said. "But the time has come for us to look at it critically and try to improve on it, given the accelerated pace of change and the fact that we have limited space."

Randy Jackson “Yo dawg, I wasn’t feeling you tonight. I mean after 3 months seeing some very poor parts of Canada in that nomination, were you really feeling that CAPITALISM was the problem? So listen up dawg, go back to the drawing board, learn some of the classics, and stop embarrassing yourself every week.”

Paula Abdul “Well Justin, I think you were awesome this week. No matter what you do up here every week, people like me are still gonna love you. You really took something and made it your own. If there is anybody who can call for the overthrow of the capitalist system and still get mobbed for autographs, it’s you. Trudeaumania seems to become its own new beast by the day. Soon nobody will be able to recognize it.”

Simon Cowell “That was absolutely horrendous. Fire your speechwriter. What’s that? You write your own speeches? Fire Yourself. Hire Gerard Kennedy. He says lots of things without using anything substantive. Also what the bloody hell are you doing giving speeches in Windsor when you should be focusing on winning your riding?”

Antonio “Justin, Pop Quiz, what are the three pillars of current Dionista Liberalism: social justice, environmental sustainability, and…economic prosperity. The undecided voter usually tends to focus on that last one, so while we understand that we need to pick up the slack on the first two, tearing down the third one is hardly gonna help us get elected.”


14 Commentaires:

Blogger Scott Tribe a dit...

Well Antonio, as I've been saying elsewhere, social Liberals like me enjoy reading this type of a speech.

I don't really see why the consternation in some Liberal circles.

5/18/2007 9:36 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

well scott,

If you think people thought kyoto was bad for the economy..."re-thinking capitalism" may be a doozie.

There were better ways of saying it.

5/18/2007 10:21 a.m.  
Blogger fatness a dit...

Antonio, why do you keep on using that picture, which isn't the most flattering one? Grow up.

As for the capitalism comments, you're, of course, making it as issue because you didn't support Trudeau and are bitter about your Greek candidate's loss (also illustrated by your conspiracy theory involving Kennedy).

What Trudeau said isn't outrageous, as you'd love the Canadian voters to believe. There are evidently some problem with capitalism, such as environmental damage, which we are all witnessing today. What Trudeau is advocating is a capitalistic model, where ethical considerations are paramount.

I hardly understand why you don't agree with ethical capitalism? Perhaps you don't care that toxic ships are dismantled in India, causing numerous health/enviro problem, or that your shoes are made by child labour. Many Canadian do care about such problems with capitalism. NO ONE is advocating scrapping capitalism my naive friend. Simply that business be conducted ethically and make the most profit as possible.

I think you do care and agree with that, but it seems that you are just out to bash Trudeau any opportunity you get.

5/18/2007 10:30 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

I use that picture because it is fitting of Trudeaumania and the power it has.

There are many ways of saying what Justin wanted to say, mainly that in our economic expansion, we need to act more responsibly.

Dion uses three pillars for example. There are many ways of saying without using marxist language which will only get you in trouble.

This will be on the BQ flyers in Papineau, dont you worry.

5/18/2007 10:56 a.m.  
Blogger KC a dit...

Had Trudeau just said that we need to "rethink capitalism" I might be concerned (although Im not sure why you would be as your economic tendancies are far more leftist than my own) but he also said "Our capitalist model has given us tremendous things" and instead of saying we should abolish it we should "try to improve on it".

I see nothing objectionable about wishing to "improve on" capitalism, as long as he is not advocating its overthrow.

5/18/2007 11:18 a.m.  
Blogger Joseph L. Angolano a dit...

His father once upon a time said a lot worse. Dig up his statements on "sharing" if you do not believe me.

I personally had a bit of a chuckle. What I find funnier is the NDP's Joy McPhail of all people saying that that Justin was wrong. This from a woman who is in a party led by a guy who wrote this look droning book about where he stands, and never once, ONCE endorses free markets. For anyone from the NDP to call a Liberal a pinko is a bit rich.

If Justin replaced the word "capitalism" with the word "economy", then no one would be saying anything.

5/18/2007 12:31 p.m.  
Blogger canuckistanian a dit...

that's it: tar and feather him and burn him at the stake. no politician should be telling people to "rethink" things, or to "try to improve" things...that is just radical extremist insanity. the staus quo is good...change is evil. seems young pollyannish trudeau thinks that elected leaders should try to effect positive social change for the benefit of mankind...what a fucking idiot!

5/18/2007 1:07 p.m.  
Anonymous Anonymous a dit...

He was out of grad school from McGill for god's sake.

Just being impressionistic on fifteen and sixteen year olds.

If JT has the cafe crowd in Papineau reading Virilio and Horkheimer, then we have the next philosopher king!!!

5/18/2007 2:11 p.m.  
Blogger Down & Out in L A a dit...

I'm just so pleased that by attacking other Liberals we don't have to do any real work.

Like act as the official opposition and the government in waiting.

The Conservative government is starting to falter and is losing its sense of direction, but why focus on that?

All the really good criticism is coming from the media anyway.

5/18/2007 3:45 p.m.  
Blogger Tarek a dit...

down & out;

If we are to act like a government-in-waiting, also must we have candidates competent enough be in government.
It is about time somebody muzzled Mr. Trudeau. And Antonio is right: why is he not working the field in his riding anyway?

5/18/2007 8:45 p.m.  
Blogger Derrida a dit...

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5/18/2007 11:23 p.m.  
Blogger Derrida a dit...

"ethical capitalism":
These two terms are irreducibly contradictory ... much like the oxymora "principled Liberal" and "intelligent Conservative".
Antonio's right about Justin though.

5/18/2007 11:27 p.m.  
Blogger burlivespipe a dit...

Antonio believes his job is to 'keep the light on the opposition' because other more wise bloggers are doing enuf on the gov't...
Besides the hilarious American Idol comments, you've again created and spun the thinnest line into something that was never even said. He said 'improve capitalism' which in some americun states would be a hangin offence. So that's where your heart belongs, eh? Not one mention of Castro, no 'rejig our economy to give to the poor and take from the rich' manifesto. Instead, you puff yourself up to try and puncture 'improve capitalism'? What a radical idea... improving something that is at our core. Hmmm, maybe he's been spending too much time watching Dr Phil. But at least he doesn't have Antonio as his advisor, because heaven forbid the Big 'A' try and improve his thought process a little.
But keep up the digging. You're making a fine ass of yourself.

5/19/2007 4:17 a.m.  
Blogger Down & Out in L A a dit...

The personal attacks have to stop.

When leaders are chosen and candidates nominated, there is nothing good that can come from public criticism of those who have been successful.

We have to focus on issues and processes.

We have to be committed to party renewal and greater involvement of young Canadians.

We want to make a positive difference.

We need to showcase Liberal thinking in a big way and help our party develop a vision for the future of Canada.

We need to build capacity and understanding within the Liberal party.

We need to develop a strong platform, based on Liberal ideals, that encompasses all the major issues and we have to communicate it to Canadians, as a team.

When we appear like we are the government in waiting and demonstrate that we are ready to govern, Canadians will be more likely to support us, financially and at the ballot box.

Liberals are inclusive. We value diverse opinions and we learn from them.

At the end of the day, we need to develop and all support our policies and strategies.

We don't attack each other and undermine public confidence in us.

5/22/2007 8:38 a.m.  

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