A Step Backward
From the BBC website, it appears a bar in Australia is going to ban breeders
This has to be the dumbest thing I ever heard. Apparently gay men are tired of fag hags and the bar owner wants to have an establishment that caters to gay men only.
While some women do piss me off on a regular basis (hi mom!) banning them from a club seems so...I don't know...1950s.
If a straight dude wants to come to a gay bar and get hit on, well good for him I guess.
Can other clubs then bar homosexuals from entry? It's not like they wear ID that says homo on it. But can they say in general that they do not wish to have homosexual clientele because they dont want gays in there gaying up the place?
Give me a break!
This is a double standard if I have ever seen one. Shame on the gay rights groups for allowing their movement to take a step backwards...
Australian pub bars heterosexuals
The hotel's ban is a first for AustraliaA gay pub in the city of Melbourne has won the right to ban heterosexuals - the first time such legislation has been passed in Australia.
The Victorian state civil and administrative tribunal ruled the Peel Hotel could ban patrons based on their sexual orientation.
The pub's management said the move would stop groups of heterosexual men and women abusing gay people.
Civil liberties groups have supported the decision.
The tribunal's president said groups of straight women found homosexual men entertaining but that such attention was dehumanising, the BBC's Phil Mercer in Sydney says.
Managers complained raucous hen nights and stag parties created a poisonous atmosphere for its gay clientele, our correspondent says.
"If I can limit the number of heterosexuals entering the Peel, then that helps me keep the safe balance," the hotel's manager, Tom McFeely, told Australian radio, according to the Reuters news agency.
Mr McFeely says he wants a "safe balance"
He said while Melbourne had 2,000 venues catering for heterosexuals, his was the only bar aimed exclusively at gay men.
Civil liberties groups said homosexuals should be allowed to relax in places without fear of bullying or intimidation.
Australia's equal opportunity laws prevent discrimination based on race, religion or sexuality.
par / by Anthony à / at 4:44 p.m.
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Good for them!
You can mock it but those were very good reasons for the ban. I am sick of being oogled over and "accidentally" groped by drunken straight ladies.
There is a sort of ban in straight bars where gay people get the shit kicked out of them should they "appear" gay.
Think of it more as a "cultural preservation", maybe they'll become a nation some day and ban "straight" english.
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Antonio, how do you feel about women only fitness centres?
oh poor you jay, lets discriminate against people because you are too shallow to have people look at you...
phil, i dont mind the gyms because at the womens gym in st leo, muslim women can work out without the garb as they are permitted under their sharia, or so they tell my female cousins. so I dont really mind there, there is a purpose.
this is gay rights groups wanting their cake and eating it too.
Antonio,
What can I say but I am shocked. I never thought anyone would take sexual assault so lightly as you do.
I am a married man or for not wanting to be groped by some lady at a gay bar you call me shallow.
How has that worked out for you in the past? How many women have fallen for that line after turning you down?
Are they thrilled by your "no means yes" mentality when it comes to groping strangers and sexual assualt.
Shocked and appalled. More and more like a Blogging Tory everyday.
so do we ban men from clubs because sometimes men are known to drunkenly grope women.
Jay, your logic is terribly backward
sexual assault is a crime that should be reported to police, but this rampant women sexually groping gay men thing is actually quite funny.
No way this ban would survive under our charter.
Strange how another Parliament in the British tradition choose to put their stamp of approval on this ban.
There are many types of establishments which are women or men only. Strip clubs would not allow men in on women only nights. Female only gymnasiums exist and there is no threat of drunken groping people. Not to mention various religious groups. Singles events for straights only or gays only. There are numerous examples.
Your feigning outrage as always Antonio, just to be contrary.
Maybe some night at a straight bar in Montreal some guy will grope your crotch. Remember don't be shallow and give them whatever they want.
this time the bar is discriminating based on sexual orientation. If there was a "no homo" bar than it would be challenged, and successfully
You got that one right Antonio.
Being in Quebec you would probably know how to get what everyone/other provinces else can't have.
So I guess you are the pro on this one.
If you can ban something as basic as a language then banning based on sexuality is of no surprise to me.
My lifestyle was banned prior to the 1980's so cry me a f**king river. Just a decade before Quebec banned a minority language (one of our official languages).
All this outrage over 1 bar out of I think 280. Heavens forbid fag hags don't get a choice of bar to live vicariously through.
I'd love to have a gay only bar here in Toronto. I wouldn't have to worry about some hag trying to drag me to the dance floor using my dick as a leash.
If you eve been to some of these bars you would understand.
For example, a gay bar in St. John's, Nl fills up with str8's after 2 am because their bars shut down. Hoards of str8 men and women move in and people get beaten up after the bar shuts down.
Why?
Drunken str8's ruining everything. There are situation where bans are actually needed to protect those whom the bar was meant for in the first place. An alternative where you can be open without threat of violence.
Apparently you never thought to think out the reasons this would be important. Except you get outraged over a bar where straight people were banned because they only go to look and grope you, like a petting zoo.
No other reason at all.
Somehow these people have gotten the idea that gay people are just sex and fondling. Why else would they even be interested? I don't go to straight bars for obvious reasons, I'm not straight.
I do not agree though with this bar banning lesbians. That is not cool.
In a near about face. I will have to concede that it is unfair. After learning more about the establishment in Australia and the similar story about the gay bar in Montreal I have realized there is a connection between the two. The bar in Montreal is a leather bar. I have been refused from those myself based on the clothes I was wearing (not leather or ratty denim)and the fact that the same bar violated the human rights of african americans in the past.
It's not a nice thing to say but gay men who go to those sorts of places tend to be rough trade, skinheads and the like. The reasoning behind this banning was not due to protection of community members but out of gay male sexism (something that should be unheard of gay population because of their own rights movement).
A better trade of in both these cases would be women can go their if accompanied by a gay male. That way someone can be responsible for any curbing any unwanted behavior.
I do support the ability for the gay community to have a place all to their own just like women have male free gyms, etc.
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