Drive-By Smearing
Calgary Grit has taken up drive-by smearing. It is really easy. I will demonstrate just how easy it is.
Edit: by taken up...i meant discussed. This is not intended to be Anti-Calgary Grit. Funny how people interpreted that given the VERY NEXT LINE
Edit: by taken up...i meant discussed. This is not intended to be Anti-Calgary Grit. Funny how people interpreted that given the VERY NEXT LINE
But I don’t wanna down anyone so I will use myself.
Not too hard, just need some distortion, half-quotes and an incriminating photograph.
All following statements are true.
Antonio has two passports
Antonio did not vote Liberal on January 23rd, 2006
The last election Antonio voted in was a foreign election.
Antonio has military papers to joina foreign army!
Antonio cheers for other countries at international sporting events.
And now for the kicker…Antonio attends secret Conservative barbeques.
WHAT SIDE IS HE REALLY ON…WE DON’T KNOW…HE JUST WON’T SAY!
par / by Anthony à / at 11:20 p.m.
22 Commentaires:
I heard Antonio supports the Toronto Maple Leafs
Please, Antonio, do not compare yourself to Ignatieff! A position you are aiming for is not the same as he came to this country to claim.
Hence the mistakes he makes and the gafs and bloopers, as well as major pot holes in his theories and views of the world are not held to the same standard. Get it?
i am not comparing myself to anyone...just saying it isnt too hard to distort facts and make somebody look really bad.
I can do it to many people but to not offend anyone, I chose myself.
Antonio thinks that Michael Ignatieff is the best thing since roast beef. Ignatieff is just a man with faults like everyone, stop elevating him to a god-like status.
Also, Antonio I'm assuming you voted for Prodi in the Italian election. I hope you know that Prodi's coalition consists of the Italian communist party. Way to go!
George Henderson
Calgary
How has CG engaged in drive by smearing? Point out one instance.
I don't think the facts about Ignatieff are being misrepresented at all.
1. He supported the war in Iraq.
2. He has lived outside of Canada for most of the past 30 years.
3. He has no experience in politics.
4. He refered to Americans as "we" and "us", as if he were an American.
I'll agree the torture stuff has been misrepresented but, in an election campaign, you can bet the Tories would certainly misrepresent it. The other points listed above are valid criticisms and show why the man should not be our Prime Minister.
i think antonio meant "taken up" as in in taking up a topic for discussion, as CG did on his blog yesterday...
Just remember, you can't spell Bevilacqua without "evil"
My informants in the Brison and Zed campaigns assure me he plans to take us out of NATO and nationalize the beer industry.
- NunavutforZed
Fidel
I simply said that the Italian communist party is part of Prodi's coalition, its a fact.
Brush up on the European politics before telling others to do so. I lived in Italy for two years, so I think i have an idea about the politics there.
Bevilacqua for Prime Minister!
George Henderson
Calgary
Antonio:
You think far too highly of yourself.
When you show half the class and dignity of Calgary Grit perhaps you will have something to complain about.
Antonio is obviously supporting Ignatieff, but for reasons other than you think. Ignatieff... that's a Russian last name. Russia is very pinko. He also supports Prodi (Italy), who has aligned himself with the Italian communists. I believe Antonio is trying to get Italy to invade Saint-Leonard, so that it can become an Italian colony in the Americas. SHAME Ant!
A little info for my anonymous friend. You said:
"1. He supported the war in Iraq."
- Ignatieff was duped by Bush's false info about Hussein having WMD's like all the rest of us. Unlike any of us though, Ignatieff spent time with Kurds, covering thier resistence movement. On this Iggy said in the Toronto Star on Dec 7, 2005 that, "I took those positions because I'd seen people tortured, gassed and murdered in Iraq. Most Canadians don't have that experience. I did and I felt I had to stand with Saddam's victims. Jean Chretien had to speak for the whole country."
"2. He has lived outside of Canada for most of the past 30 years."
- is this really a valid criticism? Would you tell your kids that, "no, of course you cannot go and do your Ph.D at Harvard, and no you cannot work for the BBC, and no you cannot teach at Oxford..because you fellow Canadians will look down on you." Not happening. Is this a country where we scorn success? Also, Iggy has been around more than you think. He has been a visiting prof at every major Canadian univerisity and has produced documentaries for the CBC among a variety of other things. He has also owned property here for decades.
"3. He has no experience in politics."
- He's an MP, drop it. He has written about politics for most of his life, he knows more about how the system works than most MP's.
"4. He refered to Americans as "we" and "us", as if he were an American."
- If you were referring to his recent article on torture, you need to consider who he is directing his writing to. Is he directing it towards Canadians? No, because we don't run detention centres like the Americans. He was speaking to an American audience. Also, in Iggy's writing, he usually refers to humanity as a whole, such as "Why do we invest so much in violent nationalism?"..he's speaking to us all, not just some of us.
Sorry for the length of this, but I had to clear a few things up. Your concerns are valid though, I ran all of this through my head while trying to decide who I would support.
hey, henderson. fidel is A REAL ITALIAN - you know, the kind with names that dont sound like "george henderson" but more like "ernesto gallo" (not the californian winemaker) and fid has the citizenship to back it up, man.
youre going after an informed, voting, italian citizen. be warned.
antonio youre such a fucking liar. thats not a picture of you and harper, its a picture of you with my brother!!!
haha
I love how people think I dissed Calgary Grit. FAR from the truth, he's my favorite Liberal Blogger.
I am happy one person picked up on it though, I meant discussed on his blog.
as for the Italian election, I voted for Prodi cuz you know what, I'll pick the commies over the fascists and separatists every day.
and ainge...I miss giovanni the 14-year old mini-harper
"1. He supported the war in Iraq."
- Ignatieff was duped by Bush's false info about Hussein having WMD's like all the rest of us. Unlike any of us though, Ignatieff spent time with Kurds, covering thier resistence movement. On this Iggy said in the Toronto Star on Dec 7, 2005 that, "I took those positions because I'd seen people tortured, gassed and murdered in Iraq. Most Canadians don't have that experience. I did and I felt I had to stand with Saddam's victims. Jean Chretien had to speak for the whole country."
We get all this talk about Ignatieff being so very principled and thoughtful, then he says he'd go along with the majority. So he'll govern by the polls?
"2. He has lived outside of Canada for most of the past 30 years."
- is this really a valid criticism? Would you tell your kids that, "no, of course you cannot go and do your Ph.D at Harvard, and no you cannot work for the BBC, and no you cannot teach at Oxford..because you fellow Canadians will look down on you." Not happening. Is this a country where we scorn success? Also, Iggy has been around more than you think. He has been a visiting prof at every major Canadian univerisity and has produced documentaries for the CBC among a variety of other things. He has also owned property here for decades.
Your kids can go off to Oxford and Harvard and be succesful - fine. But they should at least live in Canada for a bit before leading the country. As Jeffrey Simpson said, can you think of any country in the world where an individual who had been away for 30 years and wanted to be its leader wouldn't be laughed off the stage? I don't care if he's visited, it boggles my mind how we could vote for someone who hasn't been her for the defining Canadian fights and moments of the last few decades.
"3. He has no experience in politics."
- He's an MP, drop it. He has written about politics for most of his life, he knows more about how the system works than most MP's.
He's been an MP for 2 months. He's never been in Cabinet. Paul Wells has written about politics for his whole life and knows how the system works - does that make him qualified to be PM?
"4. He refered to Americans as "we" and "us", as if he were an American."
- If you were referring to his recent article on torture, you need to consider who he is directing his writing to. Is he directing it towards Canadians? No, because we don't run detention centres like the Americans. He was speaking to an American audience. Also, in Iggy's writing, he usually refers to humanity as a whole, such as "Why do we invest so much in violent nationalism?"..he's speaking to us all, not just some of us.
In a lot of his older writtings he's refered to himself as an American. This ties into the first point.
Antonio hides frozen bananas in his friends dorm room beds...
If the Liberals move more left, sure they will take votes away from the NDP. However, the more they move away from the centre, the more the Conservatives will take it, as we can see has happened (Conservatives more centre now than before).
With the Conservatives more at the centre than the Liberals, the Libs loose their role as the 'natural governing party' of Canada.
Remember, Canada is around equally divided betweem left-of-centre and right-of-centre, with extremists on both sides. Distancing a party away from the centre is a sure way to weaken it. Case in point, the NDP.
Also, demonizing right-of-centre and centre Canadians is totally ignorant. Many Liberals are right-of-centre. A move further to the left will surely alienate them and make them jump ship eventually.
Why has nobody asked who Antonio did vote for?
Who did you vote for Antonio, or *gasp* did you vote in advance polls, or *bigger gasp* did you not vote at all?
Antonio didn't vote in advanced polls but voted with a special ballot. He told me that he voted for Massimo Pacetti, the liberal candidate for St-Léonard, his home riding.
yea but nobody has asked why he has been known to stash frozen bananas in dorm beds!
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