May 23, 2006

What are the Tories Afraid Of?

Given David Frum’s sortie this morning in favor of Michael Ignatieff is rather perplexing if not outright hilarious. Frum’s intentions are pretty clear. Why are Conservative’s running around praising someone they might have to run against? Maybe they don’t wanna run against him!

Harper’s handshake threatened to rock the Liberal Leadership race as Ignatieff was being slammed as right-wing as Republicans and even compared to 15th Century murderous vampires (thanks Shoshanna)

And now this from a Bush Spin Doctor Ignatieff, by contrast, showed the flexibility and cunning of the true professional. Frum knows exactly what he is doing. After all, this is the man behind “I’m a uniter, not a divider

All I know is that if Michael does win, come next election, we will make sure Frummy’s quote is said every time he goes on Mike Duffy. With Harper, everything is about partisan, petty politics. Ignatieff, by contrast, showed the flexibility and cunning of the true professional.

UPDATE: Now Tim Powers is quoting Michael Ignatieff saying (oh my) that the Liberals never really told the population what Kyoto really was. Michael wants us to act. Stephen Harper wants us to dilute our gasoline. Great Vision Tim!

15 Commentaires:

Blogger polarslam a dit...

I'm not an Ignatieff supporter, as I still think Kennedy is the best man, but I like that Iggnatieff showed himself to be a man who stuck to his principles even when it might have hurt him among some more shrill Liberal Party members (S.B...cough, cough...) And just because Harper and him might agree on one aspect of policy does not make him a Harper clone, besisdes even as a Liberal I expect our party and the Conservatives and the NDP to be able to agree on some things.

5/23/2006 4:29 p.m.  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

Vlad was not a murderous vampire, he was a murderous Count.

Vampires myths combine this historical figure with a high incidence of the genetic disease Porfyria in certain parts of Romania. It is a kind of aneamia that makes people sensitive to sunlight, which burns and disfigures them. It also affects the heme group in red blood production and in ancient times one treatment may have been drinking blood in order to try to
boost hemoglobin levels.

The count Dracula reference was made by Paper Dynamite. I simply responded with humour and historical accuracy. Please try to do the same.

Polarslam, I actually have an alto voice, not shrill at all. It carries well though.

5/23/2006 5:15 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

I'm sorry shoshanna

I'm sure comparing him to characters on cereal boxes are just as accurate as murderous vampiric counts!

5/23/2006 5:25 p.m.  
Blogger Zac a dit...

Good post. Interesting stuff.

I think the Tories are scared of Ignatieff. If anyone takes a stroll through some Tory blogs it's pretty evident. They're singling him out from the rest of the pack and trying to rip him up. It's sort of like he's already won.

5/23/2006 6:42 p.m.  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

Zac, actually he's not that difficult to rip up. Rather easy actually, which is a good rerason not to choose him as leader.

5/23/2006 7:01 p.m.  
Blogger wilson61 a dit...

Did any Libs read the endorsement? :
''He has taken a stand on principle, while committing himself to nothing. He has appealed to the patriotic right, while creating new options to swerve to the isolationist left. He can plausibly claim to have backed the mission 100% if it goes well -- while ensuring that he can equally accurately have given notice of his intention to bail out if things go badly.

He has promised to flip, if flipping seems called for, and to flop, if a flop looks more appropriate.''

He is a perfect Liberal.

5/23/2006 7:47 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...


If Frum can be sarcastic, why can't I.

5/23/2006 8:05 p.m.  
Blogger Carrie a dit...

Coming from the person who wrote speeches for Shrub, set the entire world almost to war with the phrase "axis of evil", I would bet Frum is not saying what most think he's saying.

If we Liberals choose Ignatieff to lead, Harpercrits will be ecstatic because he's easy to beat. It's true. If we don't choose Ignatieff, which is what I think they are really afraid of, then the Harpercrits have to work harder (assuming we pick an equally strong leader...say...Dion) and they are nervous about that. Then again, they spin everything so it's impossible to trust them on anything.

All I know is that the best course is to disregard entirely anything said by anyone from any political party other than Liberal when it comes to choosing a Liberal leader. Otherwise, you're playing, most likely, right into their hands.

Stick to what Liberals want and help refocus and strengthen the party. If you really want Liberals to win and help Canada, put your energy there.

5/23/2006 8:33 p.m.  
Blogger The Tiger a dit...

Tory supporters are hard to read because, if the rest of them are anything like me, they're not sure.

Ignatieff won some respect for his vote. On the other hand, he puts so many qualifiers on everything that one is never sure whether he's a reliable supporter of anything. That can mutate into Kerry syndrome, and that (of course) would be disastrous for anyone who picked him.

And yet... and yet... (to borrow his fave phrase) he may well be one of the best out there in terms of really thinking issues through and acting.

You never know until you've picked, and then it's too late. :-) [But hey, the Conservatives faced the same thing when they had their race -- and if any of my fellow Conservatives give you guys heck about it, you can point out the incredible strength (sarcasm) of that three person field in February 2004.]

5/24/2006 10:38 a.m.  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

Polar Slam

"to be a man", Hmmm?

Perhaps he should be more in touch with his inner woman and you shouldn't make remarks about parliamentarians being or acting like "men".

5/24/2006 12:47 p.m.  
Blogger cat mutant a dit...


you are once again totally off the mark. seriously, take a breather and think before you post.

are you actually thinking that polarslam made a sexist remark?!


"... but I like that Ignatieff showed himself to be a man who stuck to his principles..."


polarslam didn't say that ignatieff voted one way and showed himself to be a man.

polarslam said that ignatieff showed himself to be a man who stuck to his principles... NO SEXISM THERE!!!

if polarslam had been talking about a woman, he would have said "... (she) showed herself to be a woman who stuck to her principles..."

polarslam is simply describing Ignatieff as being a man who stuck to his principles, not a 'manly' man...

i'll give you the benefit of the doubt that maybe you misunderstoof, but by reading you're previous posts, (i.e. comparing ignatieff to count dracula), i might be wrong

don't jump to outlandish conclusions about posts, you're seeing things that simply are not there.

point final.

5/24/2006 10:15 p.m.  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

It's not that hard to use the word person instead of man, citizen instead of taxpayer, child development instead of child care, sponsorship program instead of sponsorship scandal.

The use of language is very important. The language is the message. We need to desperately reframe the dialogue in many areas with more convincing language and take back common discourse from conservative rhetoric.

p.s. I have black hair, pale skin, impossibly pale eyes and a tendency to dark circles under my eyes from lack of sleep. I can't even count the number of times I have been called a vampire. I dye my hair red so that I will look less like a vampire. Iggy needs to buck up really, get over it.

5/25/2006 12:13 p.m.  
Blogger cat mutant a dit...

Um, S.B.

Vampires in mythology have red hair. Please don't tell us that you like blood pudding also!

Also, you shouldn't nitpick the language polarslam used, when it is obvious that it is not sexist. If you can't see that, I won't waste any more space on this blog arguing that with you.

5/25/2006 2:44 p.m.  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

cat mutant, mutant cat whatever,

Blood sausage, boudin noir, is disgusting but boudin blanc is lovely.

Overt racism/sexism/whatever insert here is different from pasive racism/sexism or internalized racism/sexism.

If you tell me the difference between the three,and their effects, then we can indeed continue the conversation.

5/25/2006 4:56 p.m.  
Blogger cat mutant a dit...


i hope you will eventually calm down your rhetoric

i won't bother arguing this issue with you any more


5/26/2006 10:27 a.m.  

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