September 23, 2006

Call Him Kim

Bob Rae has entrenched his view that ideas are not important. You aren’t voting for an agenda, you’re voting for a leader…well I guess he forgot to tell Ontarians that in 1990.

But in all seriousness…here is the quote.

“In an era when just about every politician with ambition boasts of a vision, a blueprint for transformative change, a new way of doing politics, Rae dismisses all that as unimportant. "It's not a campaign about ideas," he told Maclean's. "You're electing a leader, you're not electing an agenda." [...]

If that sounds vaguely familiar, here is a Kim Campbell Refresher

"an election is no time to discuss serious issues"

we are assuming she wanted to discuss the serious issues at another time. Maybe Bob expects the entire Liberal Party to bend over and take it before we actually see where he will take this party.

Does Bob rae seriously think he is entitled to lead the party simply because of who he is instead of what he stands for? There is no misquote this time, he said the same thing twice now.

“Yet he's remarkably blunt in declaring that all this is really beside the real point. Choosing a leader isn't about ideas, he declares, as much as finding "a person you're comfortable with."

So Bob believes that the entire party will be comfortable with a guy who just left another party and joined ours just when the job was open. He expects us to just give him the job, not because of what he stands for, but because of who he is. He expects to try and lead a country after his only previous experience was the Province of Ontario from 1990-1995.

In Quebec, we just saw a leadership race end where everyone chose the guy with no policy simply because of who he was and not who he stood for, Andre Boisclair. Boisclair’s leadership campaign was hardly about ideas. Boisclair was a professional politician who sounded good spouting the party line. Bob Rae is going for the same style.

John Lennard was right, Bob Rae IS job ready. Except we never knew what the job really was. Bob is ready to spout the party line and smile while he does it. Bob is ready to forgo bringing any ideas or values to the table in order to improve his party’s chances. Bob is ready to take the throne his brother always wanted him to take.

If the job is to be the Manchurian candidate, Bob Rae has been job ready all along.

12 Commentaires:

Blogger Skip a dit...


You can find Bob's ideas on his website, at in the section entitled "issues" (a term he uses interchangeably with "ideas" in case you had missed that).

He's right though, this election isn't about electing ideas - those will stay with the party regardless of the leader - it is about electing someone who can defeat Harper. If you don't think that's a political reality, you're downright naive.

9/23/2006 12:50 p.m.  
Blogger anna yanuk a dit...

Bob Rae can't defeat Harper in Ontario (i.e. Liberal bastion).

9/23/2006 12:54 p.m.  
Blogger Concerned YL a dit...

Bob Rae will never live down Rae Days and the devastation he caused or was part of in Ontario --- Canada's largest province!

Do we really want to be forced into a position where the Liberal Party is defending the actions of its leader when he was the NDP premier? Think of the field day the Conservatives would have with this!

I'm sure the Conservatives are dying for Iggy or Rae to be the leader!

9/23/2006 1:40 p.m.  
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If you believe what Chantal Hebert says, it is Bob Rae that both the Conservatives and the NDP fear the most. The NDP, because he will attract a lot of their soft support, and the Conservatives, because Bob can tear Harper to shreds on any level.

Moreover, the concerns about Bob in Ontario have been greatly exaggerated by people such as yourselves Anna and Concerned YL. And if, in the last election, Paul Martin couldn't defeat Stephen Harper by bringing up comments he made while he was with the National Citizens Coalition, then I sincerely doubt that Harper will defeat Rae by doing the same. Voters are, quite simply said, smarter than that.

9/23/2006 2:20 p.m.  
Blogger anna yanuk a dit...


Actually, voters are probably smarter than you give them credit for... why vote for someone who screwed up Ontario... pretty lousy track record, and his recent donations to the NDP are incredible... this man is definitely not the strong LIBERAL leader we need. I think he'd be better suited taking over Crackpot Jack's leadership of the NDP.

Ho yeah!

9/23/2006 4:00 p.m.  
Blogger grit heart a dit...

The more I read the venom and dribble at fuddle duddle the more I am inclined to cast my second (or third) ballot support for someone other than Michael Ignatieff.

If Ignatieff will not tell these little young liberals to stop misbehaving by trying to trash other leadership candidates, then he and has campaign team have no business running the Liberal Party let alone the country.

Fuddle Duddle has emerged as a trash talk blog againsyt everything and everyone that does not partake in Antonio's gospel according to Michael Ignatieff.

It has become tiresome.

9/23/2006 4:56 p.m.  
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9/23/2006 5:10 p.m.  
Blogger anna yanuk a dit...

Grit Heart and new friend Uzurper

Grit Heart, you are so right! I am amazed about how right you always are... about everything! WOW! We are soooooooooo lucky to have a person who is always right about everything in the Liberal Party of Canada! We are truely blessed!

Now that we're done with the plesantries...

Quite franky, your cowardness and immature ramblings have grown tiresome. Grow up, grow a spin, and start posting some intelligent comments rather than childish attacks on anyone who hold a different view point than you.


You are rather pompous and pig-headed. The points I mentioned are shared by many Liberals. They are of great concern to many people, and you're arguement is disgustingly one-sided. You cannot deny that Bob Rae's reputation in Ontario is far from ok. But hey, if you think the Libs can win without decent Ontario support, than Rae is the man!

Well, this is the end of "hastily written garble". Hope you enjoyed it!

Ho yeah!

9/23/2006 5:26 p.m.  
Blogger Alex Plante a dit...


It worked on the first campaign to keep Harper out of forming the government in 2004. We tried to use it a second time but Harper had policy, we didn't. Rae says that this leadership is not about policy. His "issues" are just as vague as the electoral platform in 2000. One of my friends and a Bob Rae supporter, Daniel Laprès, worked on the platform in 2000 and said it was a joke and could have been written on a napkin. This doesn't work anymore since the opposition is no longer divided like in 2000 and we need policy, good policy.

If Bob Rae has so many friends in the NDP, if he wins the leadership, will he share our campaign budget with the NDP ? Will he decide not to run a Liberal candidate in places where he has personal friends running for the NDP ? Bob Rae doesn't know if he's a Grit or a Dipper. He should go back home, make up his mind.

He's being a typical dipper when he flip-flops (to go where the polls want him to be) on stuff like Quebec recognized as a nation in the constitution

For Grit Heart, if you don't like the blog, why do you read it so religiously. When I come across that annoys me and that aren't necessary for me, I try to avoid that. It makes my life much more fun. If you don't read FD anymore, neither Antonio or myself will miss your enlightening comments.


9/23/2006 7:35 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...


first of all, you guys have to separate sarcasm from the usual stuff...

I do not think Bob Rae is a robot.
like seriously COME ON people...politics is no place for sarcasm

Cant wait til December 4th

9/23/2006 9:34 p.m.  
Blogger grit heart a dit...


You are quite eloquent in today's posting.

why not try creative writing 101.

And Anna:

What are you trying to say? It is incomprehensible.

9/23/2006 11:06 p.m.  
Blogger anna yanuk a dit...

Grit Heart

Then I suggest taking English 101.

Ho yeah!

9/24/2006 2:33 a.m.  

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