September 5, 2006

Jason Cherniak Needs a Dictionary

Jason Cherniak called me disgraceful. Apparently, copying a couple of sentences is not plagiarism. Only Tories would define that as plagiarism.

Sadly, Merriam-Webster’s dictionary is written by Tories:

transitive verb : to steal and pass off (the ideas or words of another) as one's own : use (another's production) without crediting the sourceintransitive verb : to commit literary theft : present as new and original an idea or product derived from an existing source.

Jason calls it beyond the pale to suggest that Dion did just that,

However, Dion’s website CORRECTED the release, by Jason’s own admission.

If they did nothing wrong, why did they fix it?

I am sure Dion never meant to plagiarize (in retrospect, I should have said that last night), doesn’t mean he didn’t do it.

As the environment candidate, to have “inadvertently” ripped off half your plan from David Suzuki without giving him credit for it is a major problem, and Dion has lost credibility on it.

What scares me more is that the campaign cannot admit a mistake despite clearly correcting one. No wonder Stephane Dion has never retracted anything. I think that spells more trouble down the road…

10 Commentaires:

Blogger Peter Loewen a dit...

I wonder how many Dion supporters are feeling silly about criticizing those two chaps in Public Works who copied reports online for their trip report to Britain?

9/05/2006 6:37 p.m.  
Blogger Concerned YL a dit...

The Dion folks tend to drink a great deal of purple Kool Aid so it's not wonder they love their man so much. Come to think of it, doesn't "Dionistas" sound kind of cult-like?

That would explain where all of his loans are coming from.

9/05/2006 7:26 p.m.  
Blogger TorontoYL a dit...

Dion's been borrowing more than money lately!

9/05/2006 7:47 p.m.  
Blogger Cherniak_WTF a dit...

I was a Dion supporter, I like the man but his team (including Jason) makes me wonder about how he would be a PM.
He's a smart man but not PM material - and this seems to be coming more to light as the leadership race continues...

9/05/2006 8:39 p.m.  
Blogger West Block a dit...

Unlike some candidates, he didn't do this to himself, his campaign did this to him. We shouldn't deprive ourselves of one of Canada's great PMs because a campaign "researcher" got lazy.

Fact is, Dion is a man of integrity and a brilliant thinker. It's a shame he's being skewered like this.

9/05/2006 9:57 p.m.  
Blogger Jason Cherniak a dit...

"Steal" is a moral accusation that requires intent. Thanks for inadvertently proving my point.

9/05/2006 11:55 p.m.  
Blogger Cherniak_WTF a dit...

So WestBloc, you are saying that Dion lacks judgement when it comes to who he surrounds himself with?
I'd agree with that and at the same time, it does not reflect well on the possible PM...

9/06/2006 12:11 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...


the idea did however get stolen, no matter what the intent.

The campaign stole the point not dion personally.
However, Dion must accept the consequences of the actions of his campaign.

9/06/2006 12:38 a.m.  
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9/07/2006 11:33 a.m.  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

Antonio, enough. You make yourself look more like the "lady who protested too much" all thhe time. This is not news. Neither was the Dion accusation. a) It's not an academic paper. Youu don't know what you are talking about. Different rules apply to different kinds of writing. Policy writing doesn't need footnotes. b) It's not plagerism if the same people wrote it. The same people who worked on the Suzuli report worked on Dion's policy statement. Also the oriiginal studeies were sourced. You don't have to source secondary sources, especially if they weren't used in the first place. c) Thirdly the passage to which you are referring is a simple list of three related proofs. The fact that they are in the same order means nothing. It is a very simple sentence construction. d) fouth Dion didn't write it. So he didn't plagerize anythiing again. He is a politician who wants to make this policy. This is original and in context is exactly what he should be doing. He never claimed it was his research.

Several Professors have confirmed that under no parameters does this qaulify as plagerism. So why are you protesting nothing so much. Iit makes you and the IGGy camp look a little desperate for ways to criticize Dion. Are you afraid of his momentum because that's the word on the street. Keep looking desperate and unable to take legitimate criticism of your candidates dedication to the PArty and Canada. Iggy's supporters make him look more desperate and illegitimate all the time. Keep it up.

9/07/2006 11:33 AM

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