Pandering Will Solve Nothing
It is not who appeals most to people from other parties that will draw votes. Many Liberal Voters stayed home last election. People vote for Leadership. People vote for a vision. Pandering solved nothing before. It will solve nothing now.
(Caveat: this is not to say my candidate is the one who offers the best vision or does not pander, although I obviously believe that, and I will weigh into the discussion about that if necessary)
I want the discussion to be focused on what is more important, stealing people from other parties, or promoting a vision and selling that vision to Canadians.
Elections are not leadership races, the second choice doesnt matter in a general election...
Two elections that come to mind are 1980, where Trudeau offered constitutional change and patriation while Clark said the Liberals were corrupt.
The other is 2006 where Liberals basically said the Tories were scary and the Tories hammered home their vision (yes it was bad but at least they had one)
now...
Discuss.
(Caveat: this is not to say my candidate is the one who offers the best vision or does not pander, although I obviously believe that, and I will weigh into the discussion about that if necessary)
I want the discussion to be focused on what is more important, stealing people from other parties, or promoting a vision and selling that vision to Canadians.
Elections are not leadership races, the second choice doesnt matter in a general election...
Two elections that come to mind are 1980, where Trudeau offered constitutional change and patriation while Clark said the Liberals were corrupt.
The other is 2006 where Liberals basically said the Tories were scary and the Tories hammered home their vision (yes it was bad but at least they had one)
now...
Discuss.
par / by Anthony à / at 6:38 p.m.
6 Commentaires:
Antonio, I think the important thing is to present a platform that will appeal to as many Canadians as possible. The fact is, our ideas DO need to appeal to people who have voted for other parties in the past. The Liberal Party has always been a big tent, and we should not go out of our way to isolate those progressive-minded voters who didn't vote Liberal in the last election.
The leader must also be able to communicate the platform effectively and understandably, without being unduly offensive, divisive or off-putting.
I obviously think Rae fits this bill the best. You disagree. Hey, we'll agree to disagree! But at the end of the day, I know we'll all unite behind the new leader and forge ahead with what's important.
I think if we judge our platform based on others values before our own, we risk campaigning on somebody else's agenda.
When Pettigrew called people who voted for the PQ "losers" many of us knew he was going to join them.
There are ideological people in the NDP who you will never convince...just as there are Tories and Bloquistes in the same category. (there are ideological liberals too)
We should not be aiming to reach out based on their agenda...we should stick to our values and use those to reach out to Canadians. I guess it is a different way of approaching things.
I clicked on this post hoping that you would be imploring your candidate to change his mind on the nation issue and stop pandering to the Quebec nationalists.
;-)
Antonio, I think you and I agree almost completely on this issue. There is no question that we need to present a truly Liberal platform in the next election. But where we differ, it seems, is that I acknowledge that there are many progressive voters out there -- people who have, may, could and should vote Liberal -- who didn't vote for us last time around. We definitely need to appeal to these voters, and quite frankly, I don't think insulting them is the key to victory.
sigh...
if people really think the nation is nothingbut pandering, they are fooling themselves.
Read what Ignatieff wrote in Blood and Belonging in 1993! It is completely consistent...stay on topic people!
Ed
I was in the room. Pettigrew asked why people would vote for losers.
The bloc did not invent what he said. but that is completely off topic...why not venture answering the question ed.
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