February 23, 2007

Mea Culpa

Some Bloquistes have some explaining to do to me...

Either way, Papineau is lower middle class, or working class in my books.

As for my constant criticism of Justin, I am still waiting for a list of accomplishments.

For the record, I dont count Katimavik because we all know why he is there. I have great respect for the program and its sister program Canada World Youth, but honorary chairman of a program that daddy created is hardly enough to shake the image of running on his dad's record and not having his own to run on...

delivering a great eulogy is not enough...

19 Commentaires:

Blogger WestmountLiberal a dit...

Antonio -

What happened to your posting -"Trudeau Already Insults his Prospective Constituents"?

Loblogs only shows:

"I wondered how long it would take for Justin to insult the electors of Papineau in a previous post. It didn't take very long.

I work in the Papineau riding and already, people are questioning why Trudeau referred to the riding as poor. While some areas of the riding are not similar to Westmount, where Justin lives, these areas are middle class, and at worst, lower middle class.

The French Media has jumped on him as well. Vincent Marissal was merciless, as usual. Radio-Canada caught him at Dorval Airport, at the first class check-in counter. Subliminal messaging indeed.

In fact, the English media usually flock to Justin, which begs the question, during an election, will everything Justin says become news? Are all Quebec..."

2/23/2007 12:51 PM  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

I removed it because I was wrong...hence mea culpa

2/23/2007 12:54 PM  
Blogger Scott Tribe a dit...

Well, I guess I would say you gotta start somewhere, right Antonio?

I mean, if the criteria for someone to run for Parliament is to have a list of accomplishments.. that would be a pretty empty place.

And again, he hasn't been appointed, he actually has to win the nomination. The Liberals haven't been playing favourites here with him, as you are well aware.

2/23/2007 1:12 PM  
Blogger IslandLiberal a dit...

In terms of accomplishments, that's kind of circular logic; he can't run for Parliament until he accomplishes something, but, in a political sense, the best place to accomplish something is in Parliament.

2/23/2007 2:39 PM  
Blogger godot10 a dit...

Did Jean Chretien have a list of accomplishments when he was first elected to Parliament.

Wasn't he just a twenty-something lawyer from rural Quebec, with nothing much more than a law degree?

Does Scott Brison have a list of accomplishments other than having worked on Bay Street for awhile and serially running for the leadership of every party he joins?

Does Belinda Stronach really have a list of accomplishments? Was she really running Magma?

Did Joe Clark have a list of accomplishment when he started?

What about Peter Mackay?

Are not Mark Holland and David McGuinty just basically lawyers? What signficant accomplishments do they have?

What about Stephen Harper? Masters degree and then politics or special interest groups.

Sheila Copps? Brian Tobin?

Bob Rae, for that matter?

Lots of twenty or thirty somethings have gone into politics without notable accomplishments.

He gets an easier start because of his name, but JT will rise or fall now on merit.

2/23/2007 2:45 PM  
Blogger anybody but iggy a dit...

I still think that bringing posters of Brigitte in her underpants to the Outremont nominaiton meeting will be a funny idea!

2/23/2007 3:16 PM  
Blogger Mushroom a dit...

Justin Trudeau has two degrees and worked with young people at West Point Grey Academy for most of his adult life. That is the equivalent of teaching in prestigious schools such as Lower Canada College and St. George's. In fact, the only negative one takes from teaching at West Point Grey is that it is too elitist a position. It was this reason that he decided to leave his post and dedicate his early thirties into being a humanitarian.

Ironically,when Pierre was in his thirties, he struggled to make a living. Having shun the priesthood, his political views made him unwelcome in any law faculty during the Duplessis era. Justin has followed his father's footsteps and made him proud. This is a solid resume for a politician and I will argue even more credible than many others who are in Parliament today.

2/23/2007 4:18 PM  
Blogger WestmountLiberal a dit...

Antonio - what were you wrong about?

Papineau is Canada's poorest riding. If you consider it middle class that shows alot about the quality of living in this beautiful country.

JT was questionned at the airport and at business class where you will find anyone who flies more than 25k miles with Air Canada even if they fly economy. I thought your Garth pension incident taught us not to assume anything.

JT is going to fight a tough nomination battle - I'm guessing you know as well as I do who is main competition is going to be.

Unless you intend to support JT's opponent, let it be and focus on pushing Brigitte for Outrement. Trust me, she needs your help.

2/23/2007 4:43 PM  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

Brigitte is not running in this election...

I liked my high school teachers, mushroom its funny, you cited my high school there, but a guy who taught high school in BC for 5 years...if his name is not Trudeau, do we give him a chance in hell of winning in a province where he goes against the values of mass majority of even Liberals in Quebec...

As for my definition of middle class, sorry, but I still equate working and middle class, always have, so sue me. I was born in Papineau, the place is not a slum.

But Barbot said it too, so its ok...

2/24/2007 1:03 AM  
Blogger rockfish a dit...

Whoa man, I think it's time to call that shrink. This obsession with all things Justin seems a little creepy.
Ok, so he hasn't saved the world at the ragged age of 35. But all the things he's accomplished sit pretty well with a majority of people who make their first stab at elected office, infact I'd say his measure up to what most MPs brag about on their CVs.
Did Justin snub your 10-year-old birthday party, or maybe you think he stole Sophie from you? Did you spend your early years wishing you were PET's eldest son, canoeing through the great north while hearing stories about giving the finger to westerners? Are you jealous of the kind of loafers he can afford, while your floppies make you feel insignificant? Do you carry around a Catcher In the Rye pocketbook?
Really, Justin is taking all steps necessary to make it on his own two feet. You seem to be kind of making a joke of yourself, stretching any little thing into a slight of sorts. C'mon, I bet you need a holiday. Get Denise in hear to take over, you go on down to Florida and let the sun bake you. You'll feel better, and we'll try and enjoy hearing a few supportive Liberal stories while you're gone...

2/24/2007 1:22 AM  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

he taught high school for 5 years in BC...

really is this the best you guys can do?

2/24/2007 1:26 AM  
Blogger Mushroom a dit...

Best we can do?

A teacher at West Point Grey Academy not qualified enough? Besides it is not just any ordinary high school, but one of the prestigious one in Vancouver.

I have no doubt that you think that most of your teachers at LCC are qualified. Would they enjoy the political blood sport? Or would they prefer to dedicate their careers to educating people like you so they can be the second coming of Jean Lapierre and Mario Dumont.

Add the two together and you have a solid candidate running for a nomination in Papineau. Everything else will be dependent on the political whims of the voters, Quebec nationalists, opinion polls, and Justin's own intuitions.

2/24/2007 4:30 AM  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

Brigitte for Outrement, lmao. Now that's funny. Last I heard Louise Arbour may be running in Outrement. Bridgette doesn't have a chance.

It was also not lost on the press that Justin is being given no help by the Party and Chantel called him the Liberals worst nightmare in Quebec. I place bets he loses the nomination. He has been getting some very poor advice from someone and will continue to I think.

2/24/2007 12:33 PM  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

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2/24/2007 12:37 PM  
Blogger s.b. a dit...

And actually most teachers at private schools aren't qualified enough and in fact aren't qualified to 'teach' elsewhere. Justin is not a high school teacher, he is an unqualified private school instructor. This private school by the way, would have hired a drooling knuckle dragging neanderthal if his last name were Trudeau and they could put that on their fliers. He didn't exactly have to be qualified or good at anything to ge that job or any other at any private school. Teacher's have qualifications he doesn't.

2/24/2007 12:38 PM  
Blogger cat mutant a dit...

Whatever the case may be, why do people care so much? He hasn't been given the nomination, he's running for it, just like anybody else can. Whoever is the best candidate wins.

I don't know what's up with all this negativity surrounding Justin Trudeau, if he's not the best person for the job, the results of the nomination run for Papineau will reflect that.

Frankly, the criticism of Justin Trudeau on this blog and elsewhere sounds like American-style smear ads. Canadians are more civil than that and more intelligent than that.

2/24/2007 1:19 PM  
Blogger canuckistanian a dit...

the only thoughtful comment on this thread was from rockfish:

"Do you carry around a Catcher In the Rye pocketbook?"

frankly, the anti-justin weirdness here is quite creepy. also, if you would stop lending out your copy of cathcer in the rye to sb, all bloggers would be very appreciative. also, if you could inform us why briggitte's cv is exemplary in comparison to justin's that would be much appreciated.

2/26/2007 3:16 PM  
Blogger andrewridgeley a dit...

Someone should be quick to point out that Mark Holland was just a city council hack, not a lawyer. Or, to paraphrase this blog, he's the female Jason Kenney.

I'm going to stay out of the Justin fray, but I'll pick away at the other have-nots.

2/26/2007 11:21 PM  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

i never said female Andrew, I said Liberal Jason Kenney

2/27/2007 11:45 AM  

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