French Tory Ads Hit Their Target
The French Ads are out and they are effective. They aren’t cheesy like the English ones.
The English Ads were outright lies. Stephane Dion is a leader. That’s what it says at the bottom of the TV Screen every time he is on the news. You can argue Dion is a bad leader. That point, at least, is debatable. I would still disagree. Dion is a good leader who made some bad decisions and, flush with cash, the Tories have pounced.
The Tory ads hit the Liberal Party where it hurts in Quebec, memories of sponsorship, the tired old Liberal Party, and most damaging, the fiscal imbalance.
They have one message and it’s directed at the collapsing Bloc support, telling them that the Liberal Party has not changed since it got booted from office.
Are the ads valid?
There is one main premise of the Conservative ads.
The Liberal Party has not renewed.
While the Dionistas may call Stephane Dion a fresh face, Dion is VERY WELL known in Quebec. He is known for his brave battles with the separatists and for the smear job they did on him afterwards.
Renewal would involve coming clean with the mistakes we made while we were in government. That would involve recognizing that the cuts we made in 1995 had reverberations that caused a health care crisis, a drastic rise in tuition, crumbling infrastructure (Walkerton, Concorde overpass). The cuts were necessary but when we were flush with cash merely 4 years later, we chose not to act. We cut taxes by 100 billion instead.
On the environment, Jean Chretien ratified Kyoto on his way out and then left Paul Martin and Co. to figure out how it was gonna happen. We made priorities but never followed through on them. Yes, Stephane, it is not easy to make priorities. It is even harder to follow through on them.
There were candidates out there who wanted the Liberals to move forward and face these problems head on. Face the fiscal imbalance. Face the Quebec. Renew the party by taking what we did well and build on top of that, and coming to terms with what we did wrong, and fixing it.
There were those who held on to relics of the past, some from 30 years ago, those who believed that Quebec had not changed since 1968, those who call us nationalists 19th century and outdated, those who believed that the 13 year Liberal reign was flawless, and thought sponsorship was our only problem. If it ain’t broke, they said, why fix it?
In the end the past won 54% to 46%.
In the meantime, the Bloc Quebecois and the separatist movement are facing a confidence crisis. Both parties are in the low 30s in the polls as Quebecers see that there is a place for the new Quebec identity in the Canadian federation, that Quebecers are stronger within Canada, as equals, than they are all by themselves.
Some are only interested in fighting the old battles, telling nationalists to pipe down, telling Quebec that they are simply a province, one like the others, that recognizing their identity would harm the Canadian identity. The Conservatives are waging their fight on a whole new battlefield.
Their slogan, Avec les Conservateurs, le Quebec prend des forces, with the Conservative Party, Quebec gains strength, might as well be the PLQ campaign slogan because the message is exactly the same. In fact, the slogan behind Harper and Charest yesterday in Sherbrooke “Agir Ensemble” was the 1997 Liberal slogan in Quebec.
I wont bitch that the Tories are stealing our slogans and our policy because it becomes really hard to paint them as crazy right wing people when our main attack against them is they are passing Liberal policy. Not so scary after all are they?
I guess we have to get our act together and come to terms with our mistakes in order to come up with real solutions. I guess it really was broke…oops! There is still time to fix it.
The English Ads were outright lies. Stephane Dion is a leader. That’s what it says at the bottom of the TV Screen every time he is on the news. You can argue Dion is a bad leader. That point, at least, is debatable. I would still disagree. Dion is a good leader who made some bad decisions and, flush with cash, the Tories have pounced.
The Tory ads hit the Liberal Party where it hurts in Quebec, memories of sponsorship, the tired old Liberal Party, and most damaging, the fiscal imbalance.
They have one message and it’s directed at the collapsing Bloc support, telling them that the Liberal Party has not changed since it got booted from office.
Are the ads valid?
There is one main premise of the Conservative ads.
The Liberal Party has not renewed.
While the Dionistas may call Stephane Dion a fresh face, Dion is VERY WELL known in Quebec. He is known for his brave battles with the separatists and for the smear job they did on him afterwards.
Renewal would involve coming clean with the mistakes we made while we were in government. That would involve recognizing that the cuts we made in 1995 had reverberations that caused a health care crisis, a drastic rise in tuition, crumbling infrastructure (Walkerton, Concorde overpass). The cuts were necessary but when we were flush with cash merely 4 years later, we chose not to act. We cut taxes by 100 billion instead.
On the environment, Jean Chretien ratified Kyoto on his way out and then left Paul Martin and Co. to figure out how it was gonna happen. We made priorities but never followed through on them. Yes, Stephane, it is not easy to make priorities. It is even harder to follow through on them.
There were candidates out there who wanted the Liberals to move forward and face these problems head on. Face the fiscal imbalance. Face the Quebec. Renew the party by taking what we did well and build on top of that, and coming to terms with what we did wrong, and fixing it.
There were those who held on to relics of the past, some from 30 years ago, those who believed that Quebec had not changed since 1968, those who call us nationalists 19th century and outdated, those who believed that the 13 year Liberal reign was flawless, and thought sponsorship was our only problem. If it ain’t broke, they said, why fix it?
In the end the past won 54% to 46%.
In the meantime, the Bloc Quebecois and the separatist movement are facing a confidence crisis. Both parties are in the low 30s in the polls as Quebecers see that there is a place for the new Quebec identity in the Canadian federation, that Quebecers are stronger within Canada, as equals, than they are all by themselves.
Some are only interested in fighting the old battles, telling nationalists to pipe down, telling Quebec that they are simply a province, one like the others, that recognizing their identity would harm the Canadian identity. The Conservatives are waging their fight on a whole new battlefield.
Their slogan, Avec les Conservateurs, le Quebec prend des forces, with the Conservative Party, Quebec gains strength, might as well be the PLQ campaign slogan because the message is exactly the same. In fact, the slogan behind Harper and Charest yesterday in Sherbrooke “Agir Ensemble” was the 1997 Liberal slogan in Quebec.
I wont bitch that the Tories are stealing our slogans and our policy because it becomes really hard to paint them as crazy right wing people when our main attack against them is they are passing Liberal policy. Not so scary after all are they?
I guess we have to get our act together and come to terms with our mistakes in order to come up with real solutions. I guess it really was broke…oops! There is still time to fix it.
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J'aimerais tellement voir ces bands annonces. YouTube, anyone?
I don't know that your 53-47 statement is right. There were many of us on the other side of the fence expecting Stéphane to shape up and face the harsh realities that leadership requires one to take on. Of course, Dion is yet to make the impression he is willing to listen to all of us who cheered him on that day despite reservations. We expected a transparent forum within the party. We still haven't gotten one.
Also, there were plenty of reasons to doubt Michael that had nothing to do with the fiscal imbalance and, frankly, Iggy is the biggest snoozefest in the history of question period. He has a lot of work to do before he'll be gameready. That said, he better be gameready come election time because we're going to need him.
the candidates who backed fiscal imbalance and the nation were Ignatieff Rae and Brison.
That 47% was a large majority of that gang, with rae's Quebec crowd (the nation supporters) all going to Michael in the end.
Two very diverging views. I am surprised it was that close
Two things:
1) The final results at convention were 54.7-45.3, not 53-47.
2) Stephane Dion supported the nation resolution (much to my disappointment)
So Walkerton was Paul Martin's fault? Really?
its everybodys fault jeff
feds cut funding to provinces
provinces cut services
people suffer
You know antonio i could cut apart everything you said but how about just one. You blame federal Liberal cuts in 1995 for infrastucture that was built in the 70's in Quebec. Did those cuts in 1995 cause the Olympic stadium to have structural flaws too??? How about corruption in the awarding of contracts controlled by illegal elements in Quebec's constuction industry for kick back at the municipal level. Nope that had nothing to do with it.
You are so wrong most of the time Antonio.
Yeah a great campaign would be to point out everything we may or may not have done wrong. I'm sure Dion will be putting you in the backroom soon. lmao.
This post was so wrong its truely comical was it another attempt at satire?
The party will begin the process of renewal when its members offer constructive critiques and suggestions.
Those who persist in negative criticism only need to look in the mirror for the source of the problem.
Saying the cuts in 1995 were bad and the failure to restore them worse is a constructive criticism. It is one that was made throughout the whole campaign.
The cuts in '95 were tough, very tough. Where they bad? Fiscal responsibility and new possibilities, with an activist federal gov't, says not. Yep, there was time to start fixing things but you really need to parcel out the blame. No province was willing to take money 'assigned for health care only' without a fight, no province wanted the feds cutting into their jurisdictions despite the offer of cash. In the mid- and late 90s most provincial gov'ts were getting accustomed to the axing of programs themselves -- for Harris-types, it provided perfect cover to do what they wanted. See Harpor? Despite being flush with cash, other than the typical buying votes things, he's been hacking away. It's called priorities.
Do I wish Chretien had been more attentive to the social policy and share the wealth stuff, and certainly starting the wheels moving on Kyoto before he left office? Darn right. But Martin, despite his flaws, was moving on those fronts. In fact, his problem seemed he was trying to do too much -- was it just minorititis again?
lmao now TDH is chiming in on the same note about what we should do, point out all we may have done wrong in the past and attribute it to Dion????? , which is exactly what we shouldn't do.
These 'suggestions' aka undermibning the leader, would guarentee us a loss. I'm just waiting for Cerberus to pipe up with the same recommendations that are dead wrong and probably being circulated by camp Iggy.
That's ok camp Iggy was wrong before. They are wrong again.
We will win with Dion, even without the likes of Antonio et al. and Pablo trying to force an election.
Just to let you know, Ignatieff will be leader of the Liberal party when hell freezes over Antonio, especially if any of you try to lose us this election.
I just want to remind everyone that this leadership race ended on December 2, 2006.
We have a leader who has served the party well in the past and who deserves our support now and in the future.
Let's direct our energies to attacking those whose vision and philosphies for Canada we oppose.
We should be suggesting creative responses to the new tory ads.
Umm, the Quebec government cut taxes too. And the Harris Conservatives did also. So why is the "fiscal imbalance" the feds' fault.
The fiscal imbalance is basically this: Provinces want Ottawa to raise money, and then they want to spend it. And they want to simultaneously bash Ottawa for having high taxes and being wasteful.
Provinces' debtload is still nowhere near that of the feds. And they have ever power to raise taxes if they need money.
They just lack the guts to do it.
I am not trying to make the Liberals lose.
In fact, if we want to try winning...we would recognize the fiscal imbalance...
Alberta recognizes that there is a fiscal imbalance.
We generate the most greenhouse gases while Quebec has already met Kyoto targets.
As Premier Stemach said today, we need federal funding assistance to address climate change.
As the primary polluters, its going to take $3 to $5 billion annually for 5 years.
Targets are achievable but there is a cost.
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