April 13, 2007

Where Art Thou Natural Governing Party?

I think we jumped into a hybrid and drove Elizabeth May’s credibility through the roof…

And if anyone can tell me how many more seats a Green vote split helps us win off Stephen Harper, I will give them a cookie.

Also, 10 000 votes is 17 500$ a year, this is one expensive party favor….

Next time Miss May, if you love Dion so much, run for the Liberals…

11 Commentaires:

Blogger Saskboy a dit...

May said she wanted to change the course of Canadian politics, and she's certainly doing a good job by the buzz around the blogosphere over this move. Dion's made a wise move, and -$17,500 is not going to cripple the Liberals.

4/13/2007 11:52 a.m.  
Blogger JimTan a dit...

Dion's not endorsing the Green party and its baggage. He's giving a pass to an environmentalist with a distinguished NGO record.

So, Dion is being tactical. He's making a threat by showing that May is a possible ally. Same thing as the CPC showing off its war room.

In an election where the green issue is central, this is a real threat.

4/13/2007 12:20 p.m.  
Blogger Erik Sorenson a dit...

Quote: "... drove Elizabeth May’s credibility through the roof".

Er, what? In the minds of Green supporters, who have seen nothing but their party disappear as the "me, me" lobbyist consciously ran it into the ground as part of the Liberal hidden agenda?

Or perhaps Liberal supporters who are undoubtedly relived that there were not be a Liberal candidate running in Central Nova?

Or perhaps the CPC, who really couldn't give a rodent's posterior about the WartHog, but might decry that her party is rapidly disappearing from existence?

Did I miss anyone who might share this "credibility through the roof" view? Oh, yes, the Marxist-Leninists. All 32 voters.

Seriously, let's not concentrate on the incompetent ex-lobbyist ... let's look at how she has laid waste to her party.

4/13/2007 12:44 p.m.  
Blogger JimTan a dit...

erik sorenson said

"Seriously, let's not concentrate on the incompetent ex-lobbyist ... let's look at how she has laid waste to her party."

Please enlighten us about how she has done so in the seven months as party leader?

Please go easy on the swearing. I have a sensitive nature.

4/13/2007 12:52 p.m.  
Blogger Sinestra a dit...

WartHog? Pretty juvenile along with the rest of your response.

4/13/2007 1:30 p.m.  
Blogger Demiurge a dit...

This is hardly bad for Dion, the Libs didn't have a chance in this riding anyways. May gushing over Dion is good press and makes one wonder why anyone would cast a protest vote when they can just vote for their leader's favorite real party. Their have been some high profile defections from the Greens to the Libs already-especially Briony in what was the riding with the best chance for a Green breakthrough.

May is good at getting attention for herself and her cause but she has sunk her political party.

No way she gets in the debates now-not fair to have two Liberals.

4/13/2007 1:50 p.m.  
Blogger canuckistanian a dit...

thank you erik sorenson for restoring my faith in your ignorance.

4/13/2007 3:25 p.m.  
Blogger In_The_Centre a dit...

Green candidate stands by remarks praising 9/11

'Beautiful'
Katie Rook, National Post
Published: Friday, April 13, 2007

A federal Green party candidate in Vancouver-Kingsway is standing behind a controversial editorial he wrote more than four years ago in which he describes the falling of the World Trade Center twin towers as "beautiful."

The editorial, entitled, A Revolting Confession, was first published on Nov. 28, 2002 in an alternative newspaper, The Republic of East Vancouver, which Kevin Potvin founded.

"When I saw the first tower cascade down into that enormous plume of dust and paper, there was a little voice inside me that said, 'Yeah!' When the second tower came down the same way, that little voice said, 'Beautiful!' When the visage of the Pentagon appeared on the TV with a gaping and smoking hole in its side, that little voice had nearly taken me over, and I felt an urge to pump my fist in the air," Mr. Potvin wrote in the editorial.


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Font: ****The 44-year-old bookstore owner, who ran for municipal office in Vancouver in 2005, said he at first withheld the editorial, publishing it only after he was approached by others who felt the same way.

"This is a revolting confession," he wrote. "But it's what happened."

He continued: "I know lots of people were killed. But then again, I see lots of people getting killed whenever I turn the TV news on, and frankly, it doesn't really get to me any more....

"Let's face facts. If the news on the morning of September 11 was that 3,000 Tanzanians or Burmese had been killed, they wouldn't have broken in on regularly scheduled programming, or cancelled football games, and there'd be no conversation about it the next day."

Mr. Potvin said in a telephone interview last night that he is now skeptical that the events of 9/11 were entirely the work of terrorists.

"I have no idea what happened on that day, but it's certainly not the story that Washington propagates."

Mr. Potvin, who was recently acclaimed as a Green party candidate, is today meeting with voters to discuss "9/11 truth and its implications for Canadian foreign policy" at a downtown Vancouver cafe.

The Green party could not be reached for comment last night.

Krook@nationalpost.com


Consequence of now being associated with a fringe party.

4/13/2007 4:06 p.m.  
Blogger Eugene Forsey Liberal a dit...

Even by Fuddle's standards, this time he's especially full of Duddle. Right after May became leader he proposed that Liberals vote for her so she could get into the House. Quote (and note Fuddle's typically snide dismissal of of sitting Liberal MP Roger Cuzner): "Demiurge a dit...Whatever, I'm sure Antonio wants to see May in so badly that he is sticking to his guns and is calling for progressive Liberals to vote for her in Cape Breton. Antonio a dit...I do. Any woman who says the Liberal Budget in 2005 was the Greenest in Canadian history is someone
I can work with. I'm sure we can keep Roger Cuzner somewhat occupied. Besides, la rumor mill tells me its Dingwall's old seat. Yay LIBERAL NOSTALGIA!"
http://fuddle-duddle.blogspot.com/2006/08/may-day-may-day.html

Gee, I wonder why, when Fuddle proposes a red-green coalition, it's right, but when Dion does it, it's wrong. Why Fuddle uses Con attack lines to attack his own leader? Could it be that Fuddle is:
a) Not Very Smart?
b) A Dick?
c) Against "Tous ensemble"?
d) A Bad Loser & A Bad Liberal?
e) All of the Above?

Answer: e.

The complete text of Fuddle's post is below. I'm sure M. Dion wouldn't
mind giving him credit for the idea.

27 août 2006
MAY DAY MAY DAY
The Green Party has elected a charismatic leader with more credibility on the environment than the Liberals and the NDP put together.

We have to get Elizabeth May elected into the House of Commons. The Green Party has always got the short end of the Canadian political
stick because it is not recognized by the Mainstream Media as a
credible alternative to the four other parties.

In terms of getting results for the environment, the Green Party could
do much more than the NDP, hell, they are the experts. I don't really like one issue parties all that much, but given the Liberal track record on the environment, I think our party could use a swift kick in the ass on the environment.

Elizabeth May will get results for everyone if we just give her a
chance. Her tireless work in the pro-environment lobby has given her
the expertise. There is only one riding smart enough to accomplish the job, smart enough to understand how important it is for the Canadian
political discourse to elect Canada's first Green Party member.

Ottawa Centre, currently held by the NDP, is a riding filled with two extremes, hill staffers, and people who cant stand hill staffers. Their spirit helped elect Ed Broadbent when others thought it was impossible to defeat Richard Mahoney (cough!) Nobody will cry over the loss of Paul Dewar, and the green voters, about 5% of the voting population will finally get their voice into Parliament. I have to ask all NDP voters in the riding to park their vote with the Greens in that riding, just this once.

par / by Antonio à / at 15:44
3 Commentaires:

Christopher Young a dit...

Hum, Antonio, she just announced she would run in Cape-Breton.

And before running in Ottawa Centre, I think a Vancouver seat
would be easier for her to win.

And, anyway, Canada's Green Party isn't that green : Both Sierra
Club and Greenpeace gave us better environnmental scores than the
greens.

Still, it can only get better with May instead of Harris.
8/28/2006 8:48 AM

Demiurge a dit...

Whatever, I'm sure Antonio wants to see May in so badly that he is
sticking to his guns and is calling for progressive Liberals to vote
for her in Cape Breton.
8/29/2006 1:45 AM

Antonio a dit...

I do

Any woman who says the Liberal Budget in 2005 was the Greenest in
Canadian history is someone I can work with.

I'm sure we can keep Roger Cuzner somewhat occupied.

Besides, la rumor mill tells me its Dingwall's old seat. Yay
LIBERAL NOSTALGIA!

8/30/2006 3:17 AM

4/14/2007 1:31 a.m.  
Blogger Dennis (Second Thoughts) a dit...

I disagree that this move increases May's credibility. If you want to register a protest vote, you had the Greens in the past. You no longer have that option with them. They have become the establishment without any benefits in terms of votes or seats.

This was a cheap move that required little effort or planning. And I think it will show the more time passes.

4/14/2007 7:18 p.m.  
Blogger whydoI a dit...

1)If running in Cape Breton is so important, why isn't May running in Sydney-Victoria (L-Eyking)? It only emcompasses the biggest toxic dump in North America, and I don't think the voters are going to react too well with millionaire farmer Eyking's steady stream of worker's comp cheques claimed on top of his 160k+ salary. (They're for a back injury that doesn't allow him to sit for more than 40 minutes. Funny, 'cause QP/house duty/caucus is longer than that and he seems to make out fine).

2)Wasn't there a 2 page spread on May in the Ottawa Citizen 5 years ago outlining a shady deal where she and some local natives allowed Georgia-Pacific to bulldoze a swath of old-growth NS forest in exchange for cash and prizes?

3) How does getting the opportunity to run in a xenophobic, mysoginistic, bible-thumping rock-solid traditional Conservative stronghold come off as winnable to a come-from-away neo-hippie? Does she find pleasure in failure? One of ther main industries is logging, the other is (virtually)church. There's a reason people there don't mind McKay's insensitive comments: he sounds just like them, and that's what they want in a leader.

As for the BC green ranting about how excited he was watching 9/11, well, wasn't Cheney doing the same thing? He coudldn't have made out better if it was...planned.

4/17/2007 10:26 a.m.  

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