November 20, 2006

The Only Poll that Matters is Taken December 2nd

(for the record, i have said this along, especially before super weekend)

well back then the only poll that mattered was super weekend

you get the point

discuss

12 Commentaires:

Anonymous Anonymous a dit...

The only poll that really matters is the general election, so I sure hope on December 2nd we choose a leader who can thrive in that vote...

11/20/2006 5:55 a.m.  
Blogger WestmountLiberal a dit...

Polls are just that. A reflection of moments in time. So I agree w Antonio.
That said, the #s looked quite good for Rae and may sway delegates whose main issue is electability.
Kennedy's Quebec # were scary. He has much work to do in La Belle Province compared to the others.

11/20/2006 8:53 a.m.  
Blogger Skip a dit...

... I would just reiterate what Braden Caley said. The only poll that matters isn't the one on December 2nd, it is the general federal election. And if these latest polls say anything, it is that Liberals have the best chance at defeating Harper with Bob Rae as their leader.

11/20/2006 10:11 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

to the Rae supporters, remember that there was a poll in 1993 before the election that had Kim Campbell ahead of Jean Chretien.

Also, remember that while there are some people who might consider Bob, does not mean they will actually vote for him. That goes for everybody.

For the purposes of this race, we should be looking towards next weekend

11/20/2006 10:43 a.m.  
Blogger Skip a dit...

Fine Antonio. However, Liberal respondents saying they prefer Harper and Ignatieff in equal numbers is not a good sign.

And if you think that for the purposes of this race, we should be focused on next weekend, you are missing the point. Electing a leader means precisely that - electing a leader. As in, someone to lead the country (and not just the Party). So really, the focus should be on the next election (or the bigger picture) and not the four feet in front of us.

11/20/2006 11:26 a.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

I remember these same polling firms telling us Bob Rae would be close to first after super weekend too.

sorry if im a little skeptic.

with 4500 delegates and no more than 3000 showing...the only poll respondents who matter will be giving their opinions next weekend.

11/20/2006 11:32 a.m.  
Blogger Smok Wawelski a dit...

If Bob rae won, I would expect celebration at Tory headquarters. they have no doubt had a crack team hard at work at the Toronto Star morgue digging up everything Bob Rae did, and who said what about him, and what he said about others during his reign of error.
A Bob rae win would cost the LPC at leat 10 seats in Ontario, and get them nowhere in Quebec.
Dion is the answer.
I'm non partisan, but would consider voting Liberal if Stephane Dion was leader. If Bob rae emerges victorious, hell would freeze over before I voted for an LPC candidate.
That said, Dion has the best growth potential amon delegates, as I could see ex officio's moving his way once their hands are no longer tied. Only a Quebec breakthrough wins back government.

11/20/2006 12:36 p.m.  
Blogger canuckistanian a dit...

braedan caley: agreed!

11/20/2006 3:35 p.m.  
Blogger anybody but iggy a dit...

The problem with an Iggy win is the huge amount of Liberals I met who said they would leave the party if he ever won.
The last election already saw us lose a huge chunk of support (none of which we could expect back under Iggy), we can't afford to lose more.
Iggy himself even said he wouldn't be able to take any votes from the NDP, and people who voted for Harper are not going to go with his Liberal clone.
Iggy fantasizes that he will win votes from the Bloc (impossible, because he's a federalist) and the Greens (who cares?), but the truth is we will lose under him, and he has zero support for his QC platform outside of QC.
So whether you liten to polls or just sit down and think about it, Iggy is the worst chice we could make.

11/20/2006 5:17 p.m.  
Blogger Antonio a dit...

hey anybody but iggy

ever hear the expression

birds of a feather flock together

11/20/2006 5:25 p.m.  
Blogger cat mutant a dit...

anybody but iggy

just to clarify something... the liberals you've talked to that said they'd leave the liberals if iggy won... are they real people or imaginary? i'm guessing imaginary.

your greens/who cares comment shows your ignorance and arrogrance... with 10% support, greens have quite a few votes... do the math.

do you have anything better to do then constantly attack ignatieff? lighten up, go for a drink, and stop being so bitter


smok

i agree with the rae comment.

11/20/2006 6:05 p.m.  
Blogger WestmountLiberal a dit...

"Iggy fantasizes that he will win votes from the Bloc (impossible, because he's a federalist) and the Greens (who cares?), but the truth is we will lose under him, and he has zero support for his QC platform outside of QC."

Actually...a nuance of Quebec politics is that a good chunk of Bloc supporters are neither federalist nor seperatist. Rather, they vote with the Party which represents their best interests.
With the right platform all of Iggy, Dion and Rae can credibly stake claim to these voters. In time, Kennedy too.

11/20/2006 6:31 p.m.  

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